Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord

Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord

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Xyebane Apr 15, 2020 @ 12:47am
Fan of the Rhomphalia? Try the Long Glaive.
Just thought i would share my favorite polearm with anyone who hasn't tried it yet.

Stat comparison (Long Glaive/Rhomphalia):

Cost: 381/661
Weight: 1.4/1.4
Tier: 4/5
Swing Speed: 70/69
Swing Damage: 182/169
Thrust Speed: 87/NA
Thrust Damage: 34/NA
Length: 206/203
Handling: 61/59

As you can see, the stats are mostly comparable, with the LG slightly better at everything. But the best feature of the LG over the Rhom is the versatility. LG can be used 1H with Shield or 2H, while Rhom is only 2H, in addition, the LG can attack from right or left with a swing, chop from above, and thrust from above or below. The Rhom only gives you right or left swings. If you are like me and a fan of swinging polearms from horseback, but get frustrated in large battles when your own allied cavalry start blocking your swings, the overhead chop is fantastic.

Locations: Long Glaive can be found in Khuzait cities with a blacksmith or as a tournament prize. Rhomphalia can be found in Battania cities with a blacksmith. A tip if you are struggling to find them, is open a smithy workshop in one of those cultures towns.

Hope some of you find this useful.
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Wasn't aware that workshops in a city would make a difference.
SUP3RM4N Apr 15, 2020 @ 1:20am 
Yes! Another follower of the horseback and LG cult! My man!
Gozer Apr 15, 2020 @ 1:30am 
It's a samurai naginata and a one-shot horse killer.
vitez_vaddiszno Apr 15, 2020 @ 1:41am 
THANK YOU! I've been telling about this everyone on the r/MB2Bannerlord subreddit. The Long Glaive is simply superior and might very well be the best melee weapon in the game. There's nothing like speeding 80 km/h on an Aserai Warhorse picking of enemy cavalry one by one.

The overhead swing is very useful on one more occasion. When you are besieging a town and the Battering ram has already broken the outer gate, your soldiers will rush inside and break the inner gate with their weapons. You can stand behind them on your horse and overhead swing on the gate - you will be far enough from the gate so that you don't get hit by the stone throwing defenders from above, but you can still damage the gate just right.
Miggy Apr 15, 2020 @ 5:19am 
I just discovered the Long Glaive since I'm currently based in Khuzait building a horse archer company. It's so much better than the fine steel menavlion that I used to use :D
Sagranda Apr 15, 2020 @ 5:26am 
Wait, what?
I have read a lot of times that the Rhomphalia was the best polearm there is. I never found it myself though and have never seen its stats.
But you want to tell me that I have put all that time into searching for it, while my cheap Long Glaive from the very early game is simply better?
HA!
It's a surprise, but a welcome one.

I will also take the Long Glaive over the Menavilions any given day, if not simply for the higher speed and reach.
Naryar Apr 15, 2020 @ 5:27am 
I think polearms need to be nerfed a bit, imo. I've been using the Steel Fine Menavlion and one has even couched lance ability. It's crazy how fast and damaging you are.

Like slow down their speed when you're on a horse, or something.

Non-spear polearm on horse is by far the best style in the game, along with horse archery.

It DOES have some weaknesses (notably close combat) but if you're careful you can just cut infantry like hay. And cavalry riders too.
Swordmouse Apr 15, 2020 @ 5:34am 
Kinda surprised more people don't know about the long glaive, and instead sing praises for the rhomphalia.

I guess a lot of people tend to ignore and dismiss the Southern and Eastern territories in favor of a more "European" feel - but each culture has weapons that are contenders for "Best in X category" and it shouldn't be a surprise that the cavalry faction has the best cavalry weapon.
vitez_vaddiszno Apr 15, 2020 @ 5:46am 
Originally posted by Naryar:
I think polearms need to be nerfed a bit, imo. I've been using the Steel Fine Menavlion and one has even couched lance ability. It's crazy how fast and damaging you are.

Like slow down their speed when you're on a horse, or something.

Non-spear polearm on horse is by far the best style in the game, along with horse archery.

It DOES have some weaknesses (notably close combat) but if you're careful you can just cut infantry like hay. And cavalry riders too.

Couched lances are good, but require you to face the enemy head-on, while left/right swinging polearms can cut down the enemy while you're still out of the reach of their couched lances. This is because they have a narrow angle with their lances, but you have a 180° angle on either side depending on where you swing. It is risky, require your aim to be much more precise and you can get like 10 kills before an enemy couches you first, while swinging with a LG can easily net you ~30-ish kills in a big battle.
As you said it is by far the best style so I suppose I'm not telling you anything new.

Facing infantry is actually more dangerous for the swinging polearm build than cavalry. I'd be comfortable killing 30 cavalry alone with a Long Glaive and a good horse, but I would dread going against 30 Aserai Recruits. Those obnoxious, impertinent f*cks just go into the "brandish my spear above my head with both hands like a gorilla" stance every damn time, and immediately stop my horse in its tracks if I get 5 pixels too close than necessary. Like, DON'T STOP ME NOW!

It is possible to hunt them, but #1 there is a very narrow margin of you reaching them while they're not reaching you, and #2 since they're slow, they will cluster together if you're trying to circle them, and if you cut down one while dodging him, you won't be able to dodge his buddies around him, and your horse will go from 100 to 0 real quick.

Therefore, it is much easier to hunt Cataphracts than recruits with pointy sticks.
Sevaekor Apr 15, 2020 @ 5:48am 
Long Glaive all the way,.. cavalry doesn't stand a chance.
Miggy Apr 15, 2020 @ 6:31pm 
People don't think of long glaives because its only available in Khuzait which is in such a far corner of the map when players usually go to places like Vlad, Battania and the Empire (aka middle-ish center of the map). Also Rhomphalia was once one of the few weapons that could be won in tournaments which made it more famous than other polearms.
SUP3RM4N Apr 15, 2020 @ 6:33pm 
Yea, but I am very curious, if you unlock the correct combinations, can you create your own "Long Glaive" that is better than what you can buy?
Miggy Apr 15, 2020 @ 6:38pm 
Originally posted by SavGA Leo:
Yea, but I am very curious, if you unlock the correct combinations, can you create your own "Long Glaive" that is better than what you can buy?
Yeah. You can experiment by clicking the locked parts and try to see the potential stats of a weapon by using said locked parts. The longest Long Glaive I could create in smithing has a reach of 266 but only around 150+ swing damage
Xyebane Apr 16, 2020 @ 8:48am 
Just want to share some insights from playing with smithing and making custom glaives...

You can get much different stats. For example, here are the stats of 3 legendary glaives I crafted, 1 is a Long Glaive, 2 is an Eastern Glaive, and 3 is a Long Glaive on a Pike Handle. Used highest tier components that i had unlocked.

Stats (LG/C1/C2/C3)
Cost: 388/3495/2656/388
Class: 1H/1H/1H/2H
Tier: 4/6/6/4
Swing Speed: 24/65/99/103
Swing Damage: 22/27/23/141
Thrust Speed: 87/214/173/278
Thrust Damage: 34/40/33/50
Length: 206/239/262/281
Handling: 64/58/49/39

Keep in mind that they are Legendary so ~+10 stats, but an idea of what is possible with ~300 Smithing. You can make them significantly longer than the basic long glaive. Also note that the attack speed goes way up. This must be broken, because it is rather insane in battle, as it is both very easy to hit people and I am able to hit ~600-800 dmg a swing against steppe bandits on horseback. It's almost impossible for someone to block a thrust attack with 214 speed.

I imagine smithing will be reworked, because it is both a nightmare to use and the weapons it can produce are kinda broken.
MinenSpecht Apr 16, 2020 @ 8:51am 
You forgot the most important feature of the Rhomphalia. It crushes thorugh blocks and can slice multiple enemies.

The Glaive cant do that.
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