How To Be Included In More Fief Elections

[Wigbert FriggleShit]

I am currently a lord in the Northern Empire and have Varcheg and Ortysia as fiefs that I earned over a 100 days ago, but since then I haven't even been nominated again for over 100 days. I am in OK standings with most of the major lords (0 relations or more).

However, for some reason about 30 in game days ago I realized Lucon (my liege) was at -15 and I'm working him into a positive number, I did not realize I was on such bad terms with him.

I'm assuming that my bad relationship with him is the main reason that I am not in the ballots anymore, but is there any other factors I should be paying attention to?

EDIT: I want to add I have been leading armies of 600+ nobles and men reguarly and successfully sieged over 20 settlements and castles, am a tier 5 clan, and have over 3000 influence stocked up from donating prisoners and troops to garrisons.

[Balan214]

im curious as well how it works, ive been winning battles, assisting other lords and sacking places but am never in the nomination process. instead they always have the same scrubs who just get taken prisoner constantly.

[Ri0Rdian]

Reputation probably does not play part at all. I am a family to Rhaegea after marryin IRA, she call me friend whenever I talk to her and yet I never get people to back me. At best I am one of the 3 nominated but even max influence won't make me get anything. And I have 2 castles. The option to ask lord to support you is sorely needed.

Oh, and asking to take a fief from someone also work weird... I did it twice in a row on the same one, it gets like 80% support but is dismissed.

[Wigbert FriggleShit]

I've noticed that the ballot usually rotates between 3 to 5 of the same nobles as well (including the king himself). I had one guy win three elections in a row, and one of these votes was AGAINST him!
I agree that there should be a more direct way to influence fellow nobles, perhaps spending a certain amount of influence to increase your chances in being in the next ballot, or spending influence/money directly on other nobles to increase this chance.

[necronomitom]

I'm at -81 with the King of my faction and constantly get put on the ballot even when I wasn't there to take the place sometimes. I have high relationship with a few powerful lords from throwing prisoners and gold at them and think that is the cause

[4c 61 6e 64 6f]

I don't know how to increase your chance of being included, but it seems like you have to be part of the siege to at least have a chance to be nominated for the vote.

[Wigbert FriggleShit]

Originally posted by necronomitom:

I'm at -81 with the King of my faction and constantly get put on the ballot even when I wasn't there to take the place sometimes. I have high relationship with a few powerful lords from throwing prisoners and gold at them and think that is the cause

What is the best gold-to-relation ratio you have found when bartering for relations with nobles? I don't want to give a noble 100 gold and realize it did nothing, but I also don't want to give him a mil and see that it was only a 5+ increase.

[Wigbert FriggleShit]

Originally posted by 4c 61 6e 64 6f:

I don't know how to increase your chance of being included, but it seems like you have to be part of the siege to at least have a chance to be nominated for the vote.

I can confirm this is not the case. I mentioned earlier that I was the lord of Varcheg, and I was nominated for and awarded Ortysia.
Guess where I was during the siege and election, haha

[LORDxLUBU]

influence brah

[necronomitom]

Originally posted by Wigbert FriggleShit:

Originally posted by necronomitom:

I'm at -81 with the King of my faction and constantly get put on the ballot even when I wasn't there to take the place sometimes. I have high relationship with a few powerful lords from throwing prisoners and gold at them and think that is the cause

What is the best gold-to-relation ratio you have found when bartering for relations with nobles? I don't want to give a noble 100 gold and realize it did nothing, but I also don't want to give him a mil and see that it was only a 5+ increase.

That I'm not too sure about. It was a few thousand at a time. Now that I think about it voting for them to get places probably made it rise more than anytime I gave them 5k or more.

[Wigbert FriggleShit]

Originally posted by necronomitom:

Originally posted by Wigbert FriggleShit:

What is the best gold-to-relation ratio you have found when bartering for relations with nobles? I don't want to give a noble 100 gold and realize it did nothing, but I also don't want to give him a mil and see that it was only a 5+ increase.

That I'm not too sure about. It was a few thousand at a time. Now that I think about it voting for them to get places probably made it rise more than anytime I gave them 5k or more.

Voting has been my main friend-making strategy too, its like around 10 increase for them and 2 decrease for the others, so it's totally worth it to balance out relations that way. You'd have to vote against a guy five times in a row to piss him off, and then you can just vote for him to be forgiven it's great lol

[Balan214]

Originally posted by Wigbert FriggleShit:

Originally posted by necronomitom:

That I'm not too sure about. It was a few thousand at a time. Now that I think about it voting for them to get places probably made it rise more than anytime I gave them 5k or more.

Voting has been my main friend-making strategy too, its like around 10 increase for them and 2 decrease for the others, so it's totally worth it to balance out relations that way. You'd have to vote against a guy five times in a row to piss him off, and then you can just vote for him to be forgiven it's great lol

bs i voted against one lord for the first time and put me at like -60

[Wigbert FriggleShit]

Originally posted by Balan214:

Originally posted by Wigbert FriggleShit:

Voting has been my main friend-making strategy too, its like around 10 increase for them and 2 decrease for the others, so it's totally worth it to balance out relations that way. You'd have to vote against a guy five times in a row to piss him off, and then you can just vote for him to be forgiven it's great lol

bs i voted against one lord for the first time and put me at like -60

How long ago did that happen? For the last 5 (real life) days, I am constantly voting and the report ALWAYS indicates a -2 decrease for those I voted against, so I know that at least in recent game versions the positive increase always weighs out the negative repercussions.
Are you abstaining? I don't know how bad of an impact that has, not to mention that gives negatives across the entire board.

[Rascoro]

So after researching this "issue" myself, after playing almost 3 in game years to only be awarded one castle despite being the most successful, and influential(as in actual in game influence) army in my faction, i was soon awarded a whole town. I was apart of the siege. I did not have the ability to vote(i randomly was not able to be apart of fief votes at some point idk why). And my faction actually voted against me getting it but it said something like "Rascoro was awarded Myzea despite a majority decision against it." It may be worth noting i had around 750 influence at the time.

Idk if any of this has to do with the decision though. For awhile my faction was doing horribly constantly at war with multiple factions and losing land on multiple fronts. What i think happened is that as we started to expand after almost 2 years of war, the lords(families) in my faction with the highest standing would get the lands they lost back and would only start awarding lands to lower standing clans after we started to expand into regions where the towns and castles we were taking werent originally ours.

Influence and standing with your leader/top tier families definitely helps. But i think after some time playing you will gain more and more land. So i think it has more to do with your faction being successful than your individual character.

I hope this helps!

[RJboxer]

Originally posted by c.augustus2095:

So after researching this "issue" myself, after playing almost 3 in game years to only be awarded one castle despite being the most successful, and influential(as in actual in game influence) army in my faction, i was soon awarded a whole town. I was apart of the siege. I did not have the ability to vote(i randomly was not able to be apart of fief votes at some point idk why). And my faction actually voted against me getting it but it said something like "Rascoro was awarded Myzea despite a majority decision against it." It may be worth noting i had around 750 influence at the time.

Idk if any of this has to do with the decision though. For awhile my faction was doing horribly constantly at war with multiple factions and losing land on multiple fronts. What i think happened is that as we started to expand after almost 2 years of war, the lords(families) in my faction with the highest standing would get the lands they lost back and would only start awarding lands to lower standing clans after we started to expand into regions where the towns and castles we were taking werent originally ours.

Influence and standing with your leader/top tier families definitely helps. But i think after some time playing you will gain more and more land. So i think it has more to do with your faction being successful than your individual character.

I hope this helps!

There is a thread, that was linked Where some kind poster copied/pasted the "Code" from the game, as it pertains to awarding fiefs.

It was then used as a reply in a RECENT thread about "how does AI award fiefs".

I was a goofball, and even after 800 hours of play responded "Hey thanks for the code, that will help our knowledge base" something like that.. In the current thread

Sadly, after posting , and spending 5 minutes thinking about the LEGIT COPY/PASTE code, and what it would mean, I realized it was wrong. Yep, the CODE was wrong.

I originally thought there was something (like in perks) where maybe it was an error somewhere. Then I did some research, which I should have done prior. And read the places where devs said they are constantly working on that aspect and tweaking it.

Which is why in 1.5.3 (where I was interested in it), it was NOTHING like the code posted from 1.4 (or this thread that was necro'd from April)


Summary: any code talk prior to 1.5.3 is probably highly incorrect. Any code talk about fiefs and being awarded, referencing something that happened in older versions, is incorrect.

The devs (in their road map outlined in multiple months, and even in October's post) that Fief awarding is on their To Do list. So even, if you have 1.5.3 figured out (which I don't think anyone does), it will certainly change in the future. Probably the very near future.

As it is currently, I believe
Clan Level.
Proximity of any fiefs owned to NEW fief acquired
Power level (your army, your companion armies, garrisons)
Income (not from equipment, from fiefs..)
and
Clan Level/Amount of Fiefs of OTHER lords in your faction

all have a huge influence. If you're clan level 2 its gonna be rough to get anything past your first fief award. if you're clan level 5.... but the faction has 5 other Clan level 5 guys, and you have 2 towns and 2 castles, and they have less.... You aint getting one. etc

I'm not sure Influence has anything to do with it.

[Clovis Sangrail]

Form your own kingdom and only have two vassals.