Any tipps for Archer positioning?

[[MNI] Kisune]

Hey guys just wantet to ask if you have any better tipps for positioning archers
Currently i am aware of basics like placing them on a hill above melle having them be in a scattered formation and having them stay in front until short before the engagement then moving melle up etc
biggest problem i have is that usualy once the melle clash they stop having any use (tryed to navigate them to the flank the last battle but lets just say their pathing apparently realy likes enemys
So any good way to get additional use out of them after the melle has startet? (especialy since the enemy archers seem to still shoot quite a bit of the time)

And one more thing but i guess i cant do anything about the ki taking over after i go down?
with the way the ki moves them around constantly they usualy just get slaughtered even when they realy shouldnt (Talking about 30 palatine guards getting slaughtered bye 2 random horseman and 5 normal archers)

[Kristian37]

Originally posted by MNI Kísune:

Hey guys just wantet to ask if you have any better tipps for positioning archers
Currently i am aware of basics like placing them on a hill above melle having them be in a scattered formation and having them stay in front until short before the engagement then moving melle up etc
biggest problem i have is that usualy once the melle clash they stop having any use (tryed to navigate them to the flank the last battle but lets just say their pathing apparently realy likes enemys
So any good way to get additional use out of them after the melle has startet? (especialy since the enemy archers seem to still shoot quite a bit of the time)

And one more thing but i guess i cant do anything about the ki taking over after i go down?
with the way the ki moves them around constantly they usualy just get slaughtered even when they realy shouldnt (Talking about 30 palatine guards getting slaughtered bye 2 random horseman and 5 normal archers)

This is really basic but
I found that just placing them behind a shieldwall of infantry whilst giving them elevation if possible was my favourite tactic as its easy and seems to work very well. I'd take cavalry to the flank, wait until the infantry almost meet mine then charge them in.

[[MNI] Kisune]

Originally posted by Kristian37:

Originally posted by MNI Kísune:

Hey guys just wantet to ask if you have any better tipps for positioning archers
Currently i am aware of basics like placing them on a hill above melle having them be in a scattered formation and having them stay in front until short before the engagement then moving melle up etc
biggest problem i have is that usualy once the melle clash they stop having any use (tryed to navigate them to the flank the last battle but lets just say their pathing apparently realy likes enemys
So any good way to get additional use out of them after the melle has startet? (especialy since the enemy archers seem to still shoot quite a bit of the time)

And one more thing but i guess i cant do anything about the ki taking over after i go down?
with the way the ki moves them around constantly they usualy just get slaughtered even when they realy shouldnt (Talking about 30 palatine guards getting slaughtered bye 2 random horseman and 5 normal archers)

This is really basic but
I found that just placing them behind a shieldwall of infantry whilst giving them elevation if possible was my favourite tactic as its easy and seems to work very well. I'd take cavalry to the flank, wait until the infantry almost meet mine then charge them in.

Well that is one of the things i do
but as mentioned the moment the melle clash happens its no longher viable and i mostly need new ideas what to do then (currently had them join the fray and tryed to flank both were kinda bad with them charging in probably being the better choice)

i am somewhat thinking of spreading my infantry out into small circles so they might get surrounded but keep the enemy infantry there and my archers would be capable of shooting then
but no idea if it works (sounds kinda stupid) and it would be a lot of creating custom troops every time i play so if it does not work its pretty ♥♥♥♥

[Bumbleton]

As a Mercenary Battanian, i'm normally given command of any given army's archers. Flanking with them once the infantry engages can be downright devastating, so long as you make sure you aren't rushed by cav, or walk them into the enemy. Otherwise, use them to screen the enemy, staying ahead but near your own infantry, picking off shieldless units and killing light cavalry

[✪︎DΞ︎AD_iwnw]

Flank with them when infantry engages

[BigOunce]

My tactic using mostly Vlandian Sharpshooters was to place them on a hill if possible and have my infantry off to the side and slightly forward in shield wall. When the main hostile force approaches they will get torn up, and also be split since my infantry is drawing most of the aggro. In most situations, by the time they reach my infantry a significant portion of them are dead and I just charge my cav for cleanup.

[Dexter]

Originally posted by ✪︎DΞ︎AD_iwnw:

Flank with them when infantry engages

This

Try to position your archers so they will have a clear line of sight on enemy troops(melee) and will shoot while melee units fight each other.
AI is really stupid and will go in straight line for your units from the start of the battle(usually, sometimes they just sit in one place).
Protect them with riders

[Summers]

Most of the time, all you can do is look for the best flank position. Loose line works pretty well.

https://streamable.com/h7ukqp

The most important thing is to stay alive. If the AI gets control of your units in large scale fights, it's basically gg. In small scale, if you can control infantry, try setting your infantry in front of your archers to square formation instead of line. Square is like shield wall, but the small surface area means more enemies come around your infantry and give your archers a better angle.

Also, I like to only take infantry with shields, so that square formation and shield walls actually work.

[[MNI] Kisune]

Alright so i guess i am just gonna have to get better at the choosing of my position so that i can actualy flank with the archers
(or my fights are just to small still mostly sitting in small fights with 300 maybe 350 units max unless i ♥♥♥♥ up)
And well i guess i gotta get more used to giving orders
usualy every order takes me like 2 seconds sometimes up to 5 to execute so guess i gotta practice it