Why use swords?

[Larry the Cacodemon]

Is there any objective reason to use swords when spears have longer range?

[Arcanum Elite]

Spears are terrible in ground combat for one.. good luck fighting a bunch of enemies on the ground with a spear.. spear is only really good on horseback.

[Fritz]

up close and personal

[Cabalius]

Spears aren't designed for CQB, they are more for Cav. when you are too close with a spear, you actually don't damage the enemy, there's not enough thrust, so you won't hit the target.

[👽Boomer👽]

The game has ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ balance, get a Bow,Shield and a "Menalivion" you can swing in any direction and you'll 1 hit everything at a certain length if they're closer you'll still do 30-45ish damage

[☭Rosa]

great for up close, some have 2 mode for one handed and two handed, and well... roleplay.

[Larry the Cacodemon]

Originally posted by Arcanum Elite:

Spears are terrible in ground combat for one.. good luck fighting a bunch of enemies on the ground with a spear.. spear is only really good on horseback.

Originally posted by ❅ƑɌǪŞƬƘǪǰĄƘ❅:

Spears aren't designed for CQB, they are more for Cav. when you are too close with a spear, you actually don't damage the enemy, there's not enough thrust, so you won't hit the target.

This is grossly ahistorical.

[Jim]

swords and axes are the same except swords do more damage and have longer reach. spears might be easier to use on horseback. on foot they're a bit too slow imo.

there's an op weapon you can use such as the rhompalia <sp> 169 cut damage it's effortless and there's really no reason to use anything else

[Cabalius]

Originally posted by Karl The Butcher ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥:

Originally posted by Arcanum Elite:

Spears are terrible in ground combat for one.. good luck fighting a bunch of enemies on the ground with a spear.. spear is only really good on horseback.

Originally posted by ❅ƑɌǪŞƬƘǪǰĄƘ❅:

Spears aren't designed for CQB, they are more for Cav. when you are too close with a spear, you actually don't damage the enemy, there's not enough thrust, so you won't hit the target.

This is grossly ahistorical.

Only if you are 5 feet from the target. But I am not wrong when you try to hit a target up close, the game literally stops you from damaging your target if you are up close. You have to be far enough to even hit your enemy.

[Cabalius]

Originally posted by Sheepify:

Originally posted by ❅ƑɌǪŞƬƘǪǰĄƘ❅:

Spears aren't designed for CQB, they are more for Cav. when you are too close with a spear, you actually don't damage the enemy, there's not enough thrust, so you won't hit the target.

Lolspinning still works. Basically, look away from the target, release the strike, swivel around so that the extended weapon impacts enemy's intended hit box.

Spears are superior to swords against heavy-armored enemies, they just require more skill to use effectively. Pretty pointless to use against something like 22-body-armor doods, though, that much is true.

unless you use a Rapier, though shame they don't have that in here, quick, agile, a bit of fines, you'd take down a armoured target pretty easily if you know how to hit the joints.

Shame they never added that type of weapon in. I know it's not "Combat" effective at times.

[kekkuli]

Anything is better than spears on foot. But if you mean on horseback then spears are decent.

[Cabalius]

Originally posted by Sheepify:

Originally posted by ❅ƑɌǪŞƬƘǪǰĄƘ❅:

Shame they never added that type of weapon in

Gotta wait a good ten centuries or so for armor and weapon developments to lead to the utility of a rapier...

Though what could be put in the game without offending its "historicity" are Indian-style dagger-gauntlets. Basically a larger version of a punch dagger that doubles as hand armor.

Well, sounds reasonable enough, though they'd have to take the punching animation I'd presume for the gauntlets.

[Maksim]

It is versatile, can punch through armor with stab and does generally better damage against unarmored combatants.

In contrary to what some people say (looking up :) about spears vs swords in MB, swords actually do require more skill to use effectively in melee, with spears you mostly lolspin for max pierce damage (kinda bit like animation abusing thing, where you start your stab looking somewhere else and end it in enemy face, speed is key as well to have better damage, albeit in contrast to warband, angular momentum is actually less effective in bannerlord) and seizure level fake outs.

[[EASY] Johnny Reb]

I use a spear all the time. I stand behind my line and use the overhand thrust and poke them in the face, usually kills with one shot.

[Maksim]

Originally posted by Sheepify:

Originally posted by kekkuli:

Anything is better than spears on foot. But if you mean on horseback then spears are decent.

Somebody never faced a Bucellari (or any other armor turtle) in tournaments with spears, it seems.

Swords and axes go 3 damage, spear 23. You do need to know how to use it, though, and once again - lolspinning works as well in Butterlord as it did in Warband.

This is so wrong on many levels. Just stab with a sword and you will have better results faster..

[Saint]

Originally posted by Sheepify:

Originally posted by kekkuli:

Anything is better than spears on foot. But if you mean on horseback then spears are decent.

Somebody never faced a Bucellari (or any other armor turtle) in tournaments with spears, it seems.

Swords and axes go 3 damage, spear 23. You do need to know how to use it, though, and once again - lolspinning works as well in Butterlord as it did in Warband.

If you have to cheese the hitboxes to get the spear to be useful on foot, it's not a useful weapon on foot.