Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord

Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord

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Picardy Apr 12, 2020 @ 8:52am
Wont let me profess love in SP?
Hey,

On day 1000 now and own my own kingdom, i want to marry someone but it doesnt give me a prompt to in the dialogue menu. Usually when you click 'there is something i would like to discuss' it gives you a prompt like 'I am your admirer' or something but its simply not giving me the option. The girls are single and nobles (not army leaders). What am I doing wrong? Any help would be appreciated thanks,
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Geomancer Apr 12, 2020 @ 8:55am 
they have to be young. can't remember the age cutoff, maybe 35? Apparently in TaleWorlds lore, women are worthless or don't want families after that age. It's absolutely dumb, the age ought not to matter. I could see if it was somehow historically accurate as far as being able to raise an heir, but that was clearly not the only reason for marriage.
Last edited by Geomancer; Apr 12, 2020 @ 9:00am
Taiji Apr 12, 2020 @ 9:00am 
Go MP, you can profess love as much as you want.
Geomancer Apr 12, 2020 @ 9:02am 
Originally posted by Psychedelic Adventurer:
Originally posted by Idahoan:
TaleWorlds lore, women are worthless or don't want families after that age.
That's a hot take there Simpo.

Calling it as I see it. You are pretty far off base, I am married with a great kid and three german wirehairs. Nice try though.
Last edited by Geomancer; Apr 12, 2020 @ 9:04am
Mars Cariocecus Apr 12, 2020 @ 9:04am 
Maybe the Lady is already married? If she is you don't get the option to flirt her.
Originally posted by Idahoan:
Originally posted by Psychedelic Adventurer:
That's a hot take there Simpo.

Calling it as I see it. What do you think there reasoning is then?
To keep some continuity between the age brackets of the player, and to reasonable simulate the birthing range of the average women in the Medieval period without sacrificing the thematic meta-game.

Heeer derr or maybe it's because Taleworlds hates women. :cfacepalm:
Lol at the edit though. That's some severe over-compensation.
Picardy Apr 12, 2020 @ 9:09am 
No i dont think its got anything to do with age. Just approached a 26 year old single and it didnt have the option
Picardy Apr 12, 2020 @ 9:15am 
Originally posted by Mars Cariocecus:
Maybe the Lady is already married? If she is you don't get the option to flirt her.
Nah theyre not married. i make sure. I dont know why it wont give me a prompt. Maybe I waited too long?
Geomancer Apr 12, 2020 @ 9:15am 
Originally posted by Chandler Bing:
No i dont think its got anything to do with age. Just approached a 26 year old single and it didnt have the option
Somebody else had done the research on that and I found it was consistent in my game, but it is just the upper age limit. If the person is below that, there must be some other mechanic influencing it.
Geomancer Apr 12, 2020 @ 9:25am 
Originally posted by Psychedelic Adventurer:
Originally posted by Idahoan:

Calling it as I see it. What do you think there reasoning is then?
To keep some continuity between the age brackets of the player, and to reasonable simulate the birthing range of the average women in the Medieval period without sacrificing the thematic meta-game.

In the medieval ages, most women were in their teens when they were married. Lets not got there
Originally posted by Idahoan:
Originally posted by Psychedelic Adventurer:
To keep some continuity between the age brackets of the player, and to reasonable simulate the birthing range of the average women in the Medieval period without sacrificing the thematic meta-game.

In the medieval ages, most women were in their teens when they were married. Lets not got there
No, let's go there. That's exactly my point. You seem to injecting some strange moral angle into what you think the game should have. The devs are obviously inspired by the brutal hardships of the time and to pretend otherwise is fool hardy. Considering the danger of childbirth, it's no wonder it was very rare for women to survive child birth past 30. This stuff shouldn't need citation, but if you want it, I can.
Cass Apr 12, 2020 @ 9:31am 
I've heard two things.
1. "you stop getting the option to woo someone, after you form a kingdom"
2. "its actually your age that is the problem. either 35 or 40 is the cutoff."

its one of these two things, and pretty sure its not gender specific. YOUR age, not theirs.
Last edited by Cass; Apr 12, 2020 @ 9:32am
Geomancer Apr 12, 2020 @ 9:34am 
Originally posted by Psychedelic Adventurer:
Originally posted by Idahoan:

In the medieval ages, most women were in their teens when they were married. Lets not got there
No, let's go there. That's exactly my point. You seem to injecting some strange moral angle into what you think the game should have. The devs are obviously inspired by the brutal hardships of the time and to pretend otherwise is fool hardy. Considering the danger of childbirth, it's no wonder it was very rare for women to survive child birth past 30. This stuff shouldn't need citation, but if you want it, I can.

You are assuming, as apparently so does the game's dev, that the only use for marriage is to produce a viable heir. I agree that was likely a primary cause in those times, and that viably degrades with age in those times. But, again, that is entirely neglecting one of the most important reasons for marriages during those times, which was to aquire power and connections, particularly within influential families.
Originally posted by Idahoan:
You are assuming, as apparently so does the game's dev, that the only use for marriage is to produce a viable heir. I agree that was likely a primary cause in those times, and that viably degrades with age in those times. But, again, that is entirely neglecting one of the most important reasons for marriages during those times, which was to aquire power and connections, particularly within influential families.

There are very little cases of this actually occurring in any Medieval period. While you are correct in saying that political machinations certainly held priority in marriage to some extent, age brackets were almost always respected to a high degree, especially in the western tradition (not so much the middle east). - Source: I'm a historian
Also, from a gameplay perspective, I could see this becoming abused. Marrying Rhagea = instantly winning the game. It makes more sense to keep things relatively stratified.
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sammwich Apr 12, 2020 @ 11:28am 
Originally posted by Psychedelic Adventurer:
Marrying Rhagea = instantly winning the game. It makes more sense to keep things relatively stratified.

The encyclopedia clearly tells you to marry Ira to win the game.

But marriage seems to be bugged or not implemented. I got approval from Ira and Rhagaea for the wedding, but there's no option to schedule the ceremony or anything. If I go to Ira's barter menu, the marriage offer is automatically selected and gets accepted.
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