Any disadvantages to playing a female?

[The entire freaking Soviet Union]

What's going on guys?
I've recently got this game after having played Warband for a good few years; for context of the rare few that might not have played it - due to the game somewhat trying to recreate medieval life, females are at a "disadvantage" where they'd have to marry into pre-existing kingdoms and have their husbands name on the fiefs, started out the game with slightly different stats, would have a harder time with gaining reputation and lords would often make remarks about seeing a woman in battle.

Is any of that in this game now or planned in the future? and does having children still work the same as when you're playing a male?

I've googled it but all the forum threads inevitably have the comments devolve into "Oh, so you think females SHOULD have a disadvantage?" white knighting.

[t4chy]

I am not aware of any differences short of the choice of possible partners for marriage.

What will the future bring? No idea. But I would be very surprized if selecting a female character had any game relevant downsides. (Donning a dress will give a distinctive cross-dressing look. I do not rate that a downside. It is how the clothes and armor system works.)

At the moment there are fewer female NPC leaders than male leaders.
All of them share a ... low polygon look.

The clan and dynasty system at the moment is little more than a placeholder.

[Drewie]

nothing yet

[Apples]

Doubt they will have any, even if it would be realistic, whats the point? the game isn't that serious.

[Badger BrownCoat]

i've only run one, and only my first "real" playthrough- you know, not jsut what does this do ?ohhh neat reroll...
- rna cloest i could get to an old D&D character-
and found out, whoever made this game doesn't know *jack* about 2-hand stave-weapons techniques.... ( watch a Menavliatoi in action... shrug )
so, kinda killed that character for me..
nonetheless;
what i hadn't counted on - was...1) marrying "stole" the guy from his family..
which... i had thought it would be more an alliance.

2) i was CONSTANTLy pregnant.
whch was werid, i felt like "should i mod to play the guy while she's preggers?" )-
but - at least ? a patch or two ago?- seems it happens less now to my wife -being preggers had NO effect-
she was ready to pop ( which is also weirdly fast ) , but leading armies and killin' chumps, like a CHAMP.
-- it felt REALLy weird and immersion-breaking for me, i felt *guilty* playing her in her condition

Other than that, I didn't notice any actual game differences or affects when i played my next character...
I even understand there's a bunch of cut dialog been found & put up of what some of the certain lords/cultures would REACT to the exceptional woman doing thi, was removed from game.

You'll see some female lords, and only in *one* case is it remarked what a rogue-ish badass she is for taking on that role- the rest, it's like, yeah, nothing special, I'm just another chick in armor, nothing cool about me. Boop.

from the cut files I think they looked at all the 'white knighting' and mess other games got to enjoy; and decided "hard pass"

[Hanok]

First NPC that try's to smack my ass is getting an arrow to the throat. Not the knee the throat.

[FD_Stalker]

Yes, you will marry a man, and there is no lesbian marriage, yet

[desaix]

There is one small difference at the moment -- namely, that you need to get married sooner (Females can no longer get married after 35, whereas males have until they're 40). There is a tiny bit of evidence they may add an optional, scaled-down version of Warband-esque "sexism" in the future (as in, other characters may act in sexist ways to your character, not that the game itself is sexist) but that may be an artifact of cut content instead.

[NorseKorean]

If you look at the xmls, it does appear to be planned out for such a thing...but in this day an age, you know damn well what will happen if there's any sort of disadvantage for anyone.

[Roz Britanicus]

No everything is the same .

[Roz Britanicus]

Originally posted by desaix:

There is one small difference at the moment -- namely, that you need to get married sooner (Females can no longer get married after 35, whereas males have until they're 40). There is a tiny bit of evidence they may add an optional, scaled-down version of Warband-esque "sexism" in the future (as in, other characters may act in sexist ways to your character, not that the game itself is sexist) but that may be an artifact of cut content instead.

I do thinks it's 35 for males too.

[Super Cosmic Space Magnet]

Yeah I mean who wouldn't want to play a character where you can't participate then die in childbirth after half an hour of gameplay

[Badger BrownCoat]

Originally posted by Super Cosmic Space Magnet:

Yeah I mean who wouldn't want to play a character where you can't participate then die in childbirth after half an hour of gameplay

on exactly that note ( aside from how weird t was playing a pregnat charcter and having to lead armies and fight )

dosn't 'making it an everyday thing'

Make "theodora" Rhaggae - what she's trying to do-
alot less impactful;
and Ira- trying- a lot less *interesting*
Brienne of Tarth is only special if not EVERY female does it..

[Apples]

Originally posted by Badger BrownCoat:

Originally posted by Super Cosmic Space Magnet:

Yeah I mean who wouldn't want to play a character where you can't participate then die in childbirth after half an hour of gameplay

on exactly that note ( aside from how weird t was playing a pregnat charcter and having to lead armies and fight )

dosn't 'making it an everyday thing'

Make "theodora" Rhaggae - what she's trying to do-
alot less impactful;
and Ira- trying- a lot less *interesting*
Brienne of Tarth is only special if not EVERY female does it..

And all the male characters are special 'cause? many characters regardless of sex can be iconic, if done properly.

[DabaDOO]

You will have boobs. Males will be looking, they will be liking.

After that, there is a chance of characters dying in childbirth. Don't know if it applies to player.

And in Calradia, babies are brought to you by magical swans from a magical baby factory, so pregnancy is not a thing that prevents anyone from doing anything. It is just a word to let your wife know that she ordered a new child from the magical baby factory.

[Badger BrownCoat]

Originally posted by Apples:

And all the male characters are special 'cause? many characters regardless of sex can be iconic, if done properly.

And all the male characters... what now?
not sure what you're trying to say.

I'll take a stab at it, tho -
for Ira, it mentions what she does to stand out- it's *not* normal behavior.
And her dialog tree very specifically says,
" had I been born a male, the senators would be tripping over themselves to elect me..."

As to Rhaggea - one of the other nobles directly says she's a half-foreign adventurer..
"Could Theodora have held the Empire togther IF Justinian *had* died in the Nika riots?"
...Rhaegga's story is a "what-if"
If female emperors were "usual" - this would not be an un-usual circumstance.
Ever heard of Maria Theresa and the 7 years war?
ol' Freddie greatly underestimated that woman. Can't be empress? We'll see.

If these were "ordinary" , they wouldn't stand out.
Again, Brienne of Tarth - or - the badass gal from vikings- they're doing the UNUSUAL.

Are all the males " special 'cause" ?
I don't know- are they?
Serving in armies is - expected of a male noble. The Romans had some *serious* issues once wealth no longer implied duty, so did later western nobility.. power..responsility...?

But - are they special 'cause?
I'd say no, nothing special about doing the expected.
Most of them stand out about as much as Most of the rest of the female lords, which doesn't fit the Rhaggea or Ira dialog-
but the males don't get a 'special' pass; no-
not many of the male characters stood out to me, a couple had interesting bits - mostly political discourse points.

I.. think? i answered what you were trying to ask?
If you were saying" yes every woman should be a sword-wielding armor-laden shield-maiden"
... well, hey, you're free to have that - doesn't work for me.