Taleworlds must allow modding / workshop ASAP to save this game.

[FireShark]

It's becoming painfully obvious that this game is severally lacking in content in comparison to Warband, and in the context of the massive 8 year dev cycle that should have delivered a lot more.

People need to remember that the original M&B was also quite shallow and lacking and if not for mods, the game never would have become the big cult success that it did.

Now we are in the same situation and Taleworlds is delaying all modding until the full release....huge mistake. Modding would save this game right now.

As someone on the fence, the current sad state of this game (in context of the long dev cycle) and this long EA period (easily a year+) is far too risky for me to touch this game, but modding could change all that very fast.

[Kashra Fall]

That's kind of because people are comparing the game to another game that has been out far longer and modded to high heaven. You canna do that. Bannerlord isn't finished, warband is finished 1000x over.

[FireShark]

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

That's kind of because people are comparing the game to another game that has been out far longer and modded to high heaven. You canna do that. Bannerlord isn't finished, warband is finished 1000x over.

Doesn't matter. The game is still getting trashed because people don't want to play something that is objectively worse, that still costs full price, and is in EA limbo. Allowing modding on the other hand will allow people to quickly fix things that they want in the game.

[Kashra Fall]

Originally posted by FireShark:

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

That's kind of because people are comparing the game to another game that has been out far longer and modded to high heaven. You canna do that. Bannerlord isn't finished, warband is finished 1000x over.

Doesn't matter. The game is still getting trashed because people don't want to play something that is objectively worse, that still costs full price, and is in EA limbo. Allowing modding on the other hand will allow people to quickly fix things that they want in the game.

See there's this thing called choice. People are choosing to buy into an EA game that isn't finished and complaining and then comparing it to the finished product of WB. That's the issue, not the game itself.

That being said, mods for BL are and have already been in development for sometime, due to people having access to the beta code.

[zero]

85% approval raiting on steam, people claiming "it needs saving"

[FireShark]

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

Originally posted by FireShark:

Doesn't matter. The game is still getting trashed because people don't want to play something that is objectively worse, that still costs full price, and is in EA limbo. Allowing modding on the other hand will allow people to quickly fix things that they want in the game.

See there's this thing called choice. People are choosing to buy into an EA game that isn't finished and complaining and then comparing it to the finished product of WB. That's the issue, not the game itself.

That being said, mods for BL are and have already been in development for sometime, due to people having access to the beta code.

The issue is both the people's perception AND the game itself. Even the most diehard fanboy has to admit that after 7-8 years this game is lacking. It may have plenty of potential but it still has a LONG way to go, especially if we have to wait on Taleworlds to do it alone. And then Taleworlds not getting on the ball with mod tools and workshop in EA only makes it even worse.

[Black Baron]

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

That's kind of because people are comparing the game to another game that has been out far longer and modded to high heaven. You canna do that. Bannerlord isn't finished, warband is finished 1000x over.

What exactly is your argument here? You don't seem to disagree with his point that workshop support should be enabled. You just seem upset that he doesn't like the current state of the game?

[DrSlugger]

Holy ♥♥♥♥ we are hardly into the EA release and you're talking about the sky falling as if this game needs saving. Sit down son, the game doesn't need "saving."

[Nubz_Unite]

No, it's EA it's going to be patched incredibly frequently which could break any mods.

[ramrom]

This has a lot more content than warband did at release. ALOT more.

[zero]

Originally posted by DrSlugger:

Holy ♥♥♥♥ we are hardly into the EA release and you're talking about the sky falling as if this game needs saving. Sit down son, the game doesn't need "saving."

sums it up, game, to my understanding, sold well enough to top steam charts, and has had a consistent 100k players all day, thats a respectable launch day

[Dregora]

Originally posted by FireShark:

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

That's kind of because people are comparing the game to another game that has been out far longer and modded to high heaven. You canna do that. Bannerlord isn't finished, warband is finished 1000x over.

Doesn't matter. The game is still getting trashed because people don't want to play something that is objectively worse, that still costs full price, and is in EA limbo. Allowing modding on the other hand will allow people to quickly fix things that they want in the game.

Little did you know the original M&B and Bannerlord were both EA titles too. And guess what? They turned out just fine. It's not fair to compare a game and all it's mods and then say Bannerlord lacks content. Ofcourse it cannot match up to all those mods included.

But Warband vanilla vs Bannerlord vanilla and it's clear Bannerlord wins.

[ramrom]

Originally posted by Nubz_Unite:

No, it's EA it's going to be patched incredibly frequently which could break any mods.

Good point. Mods will have to wait. But I think mod developers can start planning.

[Dregora]

Originally posted by ramrom:

Originally posted by Nubz_Unite:

No, it's EA it's going to be patched incredibly frequently which could break any mods.

Good point. Mods will have to wait. But I think mod developers can start planning.

They already are... for months.

[Nubz_Unite]

Originally posted by ramrom:

Originally posted by Nubz_Unite:

No, it's EA it's going to be patched incredibly frequently which could break any mods.

Good point. Mods will have to wait. But I think mod developers can start planning.

True, I have heard that bannerlord is more moddable, and friendly to mod dev's but I don't normally do that stuff so I didn't look into it

[Go0lden_Archer]

It's not lacking though. Its a warband+ and it does pretty well.

I do agree about workshop and modding toolkit though, because in comparison to mods it can be lacking, at least because i cannot join any lord's army like with freelancer😂 but you gotta be next level junky to compare mods to game