Will we be able to kill Kings?

[Ruby]

I know that we will be able to kill lords that we captured, so i was wondering, can we kill the kings too?

[Silamon]

I would assume so?

[Epsilon]

I don't think anything has been said about it but if you can id hope that the faction would have to have no more lords and executing their king would be the end of it for their faction

[Plinto]

It would be idiotic if there was perma death and executions for our character and all other lords, but those same rules didn't apply to kings and emperors. I'm gonna bet that it's possible, just not easy to do.

Those high level AI fighters look kinda mean.

[morph113]

Originally posted by Epsilon:

I don't think anything has been said about it but if you can id hope that the faction would have to have no more lords and executing their king would be the end of it for their faction

Couldn't just someone else become king then? I mean I guess the game doesn't use different succession laws for different kingdoms like Crusader Kings 2, but they could just go with a standard and easy to understand Primogeniture succession (oldest child inherits the title) unless NPC kings don't have children. If the King has no children, then the next in line (brother, uncle etc.) would become king. I don't know how it works in Bannerlord, but I would love to see proper succession lines like that.

[Meme Man]

Originally posted by VelvetThunder:

It would be idiotic if there was perma death and executions for our character and all other lords, but those same rules didn't apply to kings and emperors. I'm gonna bet that it's possible, just not easy to do.

Those high level AI fighters look kinda mean.

Afaik lords just get replaced by completely new ones.

[Cosmic Cat]

They announced a long time ago that you will be able to perma-kill lords.

[R4MPZY]

Yes you can kill lords and Kings. Not everything needs a mod...

[Ensign]

Your character can also perma die too which is the whole point of the lineage/family system in the game.

I dont think it will be a thing though. Just like how the customizable village castle feature was removed, this will probably be too? Idk.

Thing is this would play bloody hell with the relations systems.

How do you raise relations with certain lords and your faction? You do quests for lords, you invite them to feasts, impress them with your tourney skills.

All these things take time.

Can you imagine? Playing the game, doing ALL of that, HOURS of work to build up relations with a circle of lords you plan to carry over with you when you make bid to create your own kingdom. Only to have them die off because someone somewhere killed their armies and killed that lord? All your work lost. Replaced by generic nobodies.

Perhaps there is an easier way to raise relations in this game. If so then i dont see why committing regicide would help anyone in political advancement. No king would condone that. Nor the victim's people.

[Hobo Misanthropus]

Almost certainly, with character mortality enabled. However, I'm willing to bet there are artificial protections in place, so that only as a character gets older, or has a line of succession, can they be killed in combat.

[Red Devil is Back!]

i hope later on if we can kill kings that it will lead to a big civil war within their kingdom to crown a successor.

[Hobo Misanthropus]

Originally posted by Ensign:

Your character can also perma die too which is the whole point of the lineage/family system in the game.

I dont think it will be a thing though. Just like how the customizable village castle feature was removed, this will probably be too? Idk.

Thing is this would play bloody hell with the relations systems.

How do you raise relations with certain lords and your faction? You do quests for lords, you invite them to feasts, impress them with your tourney skills.

All these things take time.

Can you imagine? Playing the game, doing ALL of that, HOURS of work to build up relations with a circle of lords you plan to carry over with you when you make bid to create your own kingdom. Only to have them die off because someone somewhere killed their armies and killed that lord? All your work lost. Replaced by generic nobodies.

Perhaps there is an easier way to raise relations in this game. If so then i dont see why committing regicide would help anyone in political advancement. No king would condone that. Nor the victim's people.

Typically, a Father's friends also become his children's friends. It probably follows a law of diminishing returns by generation. IE: A 10 Reputation gain for a lord, would impart a 5 reputation gain as well for his entire aligned family.

Yes, it can get really complicated, but that's the entire reason Tale Worlds spent like 4 years just building the engine lol.

Also, from a game design standpoint, it means you never reach a level of absolute comfort, everything slowly has entropy, which is important for balance, as we see in Warband what happens when a game lasts too long. The cumulative result of persistent relations, making the AI completely incapable of holding together a kingdom because trust and loyalty has tanked so far.

[Chikuwu]

Originally posted by Epsilon:

I don't think anything has been said about it but if you can id hope that the faction would have to have no more lords and executing their king would be the end of it for their faction

Callum confirmed that you can freely execute anyone you manage to take prisoner. But it comes with great cost to you. The faction which king you kill from, will hate your guts for it. Some will like it, especially those who hated the old king, but you will ruin your trading empire reputation (if you run any sort of trading ring etc) in that factions cities. Also honorable lords will hate your guts around the world in different factions for killing nobleman in cold blood.