Smithing plans learning

[Googley Eye'd Bastard]

So Im now wondering what exactly determines how the game determines when you learn smithing plans. I've gotten my skill up to 80 and have the curious smith perk (although i'm told that most perks don't work yet) but at this point I don't seem to be learning anything new in terms of patterns.

[sgt.greywar]

You *seem* to learn more from smelting than you do from crafting. That has been my experience at least.

[Reignner]

i to learned a lot from smelting, but i hardly craft. if you smelt weapons and go to certain citys you can sell the componets for like x3 what the weapon was worth

[Vash]

Smithing needs a massive patch on learning new plans. It's all random no matter when you do, but higher level weapons offer faster learning.

Was hoping that smelting particular weapons would give me a high chance of learning those parts but thats sadly not the case. It's just completely random.

[Googley Eye'd Bastard]

Ah ok thanks guys I was starting to think that I was needing to smelt or craft higher quality weapons to learn new plans.

Originally posted by Vash:

Smithing needs a massive patch on learning new plans. It's all random no matter when you do, but higher level weapons offer faster learning.

Was hoping that smelting particular weapons would give me a high chance of learning those parts but thats sadly not the case. It's just completely random.

So the best thing would be to go out and slaughter bandits for their hammers and sicklesfor smelting fodder.

I've also been farming tournaments for the weapons to smelt (with tournament xp mod, practice not giving xp makes sense to me but real tournaments should give skill ups).

[Imp0815]

Originally posted by sgt.greywar:

You *seem* to learn more from smelting than you do from crafting. That has been my experience at least.

I have the exact opposite experiance.

[sgt.greywar]

Originally posted by Imp0815:

Originally posted by sgt.greywar:

You *seem* to learn more from smelting than you do from crafting. That has been my experience at least.

I have the exact opposite experiance.

interesting, I wonder what tips it one way or the other?

Even in my new playthrough I get way more parts from smelting vice anythign else, through with the insane amount of weapons which drop from even low level-mobs smelting is also way more repeatable in quantity than smithing.

[Hobo Misanthropus]

Smithing wouldn't be so bad if the fatigue didn't set in after like 5 smelts.

[sgt.greywar]

Originally posted by Hobo Misanthropus:

Smithing wouldn't be so bad if the fatigue didn't set in after like 5 smelts.

The mod I use boosts it to 400 by default but even so, the simple fact that smithing requires multiple clicks even to just craft the same sword 20 times (let alone how many click/scrolls if you want to change parts around) plus making sure you have 4+ different materials in stock makes it much slower than smelting where I can burn my whole stamina pile in 45 seconds as long as I have one thing: charcoal.

[riteclick]

Not to necro, but I have the same problem as OP and came here looking. As soon as I hit level 80, there's zero new parts. I even modded in infinite smithing just to test it, and even after gaining 60 more levels, still zero new parts.

[Googley Eye'd Bastard]

Originally posted by riteclick:

Not to necro, but I have the same problem as OP and came here looking. As soon as I hit level 80, there's zero new parts. I even modded in infinite smithing just to test it, and even after gaining 60 more levels, still zero new parts.

Still can't get new parts but I have confirmed that more difficult smithing does make more smithing xp when you craft.

[CORN!]

Really need a fix on this. No idea why it's happening and its driving me mad. Opted in to Beta to see if that fixes it - nothing. PLEASE help!

[sgt.greywar]

Originally posted by CORN!:

Really need a fix on this. No idea why it's happening and its driving me mad. Opted in to Beta to see if that fixes it - nothing. PLEASE help!

There are a few bugs like this. Likley will be a few weeks at least before they get around to squashing them.

[AussieMarine]

Crafting Two Handed Axe with tier 5 blade grants me 3-5 levels each forge, along with 1-2 plans each forge.

However can anyone say if Curious Smith is actually worth it, or should i get steel 2?

[Googley Eye'd Bastard]

Originally posted by AussieMarine:

Crafting Two Handed Axe with tier 5 blade grants me 3-5 levels each forge, along with 1-2 plans each forge.

However can anyone say if Curious Smith is actually worth it, or should i get steel 2?

Honestly It doesn't seem to make a difference once you hit a certain level of skill/plans, learning the plans just grinds to a halt at a certain point, and to me at least the extra metal can be very lucrative (should count toward trading), not to mention that getting the curious skills straight up locks out certain metals from crafting which seems kinda ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to me.

[ViiK]

To my understanding you unlock parts just by gaining smithing xp. At first, smelting works well as you can do a lot of it, later forging weapons works better as you get more xp from it.