Best units(correct me if I'm wrong)

[PartyMaster]

So what I'm noticing so far is the factions with the best units are

Sturgia(blue): Infantrymen and Spearmen

Battania(dark green): Archers

Vladians(orange): Knights and crossbowmen

Empire realms: just well rounded units, nothing special honestly

Khuzaits(Light Grean/Teal): Horse Archers

Aserai(brown): Skirmishers?

let me know if I'm wrong in any aspect, I'm curious to know who has the best of what unit wise for each faction. EX: valandia has the best knights and crossbowmen, sturgia has the best infantry etc. Not which factions units are the best, trying to look for which faction has THE BEST. Like how Battania hands down has the best archers in the entire game that can destroy you from miles away.

[redeyedraven]

引用自 Brittanian：

Archers seem to win against all at the moment to be honest. if you get a shield wall or circle around them they will annhilate enemy armies much bigger than they are (hence why Kuzaits are so dominant)

Yeah. I win most of my battles because of archers and crossbowmen in larger quantities.

[Voryn Dagoth Ur]

引用自 Bunks：

引用自 Jeembo：

Try bumping it to realistic vs 1/3. You'll see losses.

Im playing it at whatever default start was.

default start is like all 1/3rds

[Voryn Dagoth Ur]

引用自 redeyedraven：

引用自 Brittanian：

Archers seem to win against all at the moment to be honest. if you get a shield wall or circle around them they will annhilate enemy armies much bigger than they are (hence why Kuzaits are so dominant)

Yeah. I win most of my battles because of archers and crossbowmen in larger quantities.

Crossbowmen stats are all wrong higher in bow than crossbows lol

[jfoytek]

引用自 redeyedraven：

引用自 Brittanian：

Archers seem to win against all at the moment to be honest. if you get a shield wall or circle around them they will annhilate enemy armies much bigger than they are (hence why Kuzaits are so dominant)

Yeah. I win most of my battles because of archers and crossbowmen in larger quantities.

Sure you can go heavy anything and succeed.... Infact is I had 50 Legionary's only I would happily put them in a Shield wall and advance thru your barrage of arrows and come out on the other side with all your archers dead....

You could go all Heavy Cavalry and have the same success as all archers....

[Bunks]

引用自 Voryn Dagoth Ur：

引用自 Bunks：

Im playing it at whatever default start was.

default start is like all 1/3rds

just checked, 2/3

[Bunks]

引用自 jfoytek：

引用自 redeyedraven：

Yeah. I win most of my battles because of archers and crossbowmen in larger quantities.

Sure you can go heavy anything and succeed.... Infact is I had 50 Legionary's only I would happily put them in a Shield wall and advance thru your barrage of arrows and come out on the other side with all your archers dead....

You could go all Heavy Cavalry and have the same success as all archers....

Which is why I said Kahn Gaurds are the most OP unit. They can do either. If they cant shoot you they can run you down just as easily. They are like Elite Cataphracts only better bows and faster. And pretty damn good at seiges too.

[Goatmanpig]

引用自 Snorri Nosebiter：

引用自 Ulf La Blanche Hermine：

Stronger than Bettanians ?

They're a lot easier to get and you'll always have a lot more of them than those T6 Battanians.

'Best' doesn't necessarily mean 'strongest ', but the Palatine Guard are definitely the strongest in their tier, and the fact that they're cheaper, easier to get and almost as good as the T6 Battanians makes them better in my opinion.

Battanian archers get two handers (outside of max tier) and they wreck anything that gets close too and in melee will beat Palatine Guard.

[katzenkrimis]

引用自 Partymaster：

The factions with the best units are

Sturgia(blue): Infantrymen and Spearmen

That's a very generalized way of putting it.

Everything Sturgia has is weak, except for Veteran Warriors. They are okay.

Their Veteran Archers are usable, but they are a joke compared to Battanian archers.

Sturgian units aren't even worth discussing.

They are the conversation you'd have after an awkward moment.

[Bullshat]

引用自 jfoytek：

引用自 redeyedraven：

Yeah. I win most of my battles because of archers and crossbowmen in larger quantities.

Sure you can go heavy anything and succeed.... Infact is I had 50 Legionary's only I would happily put them in a Shield wall and advance thru your barrage of arrows and come out on the other side with all your archers dead....

You could go all Heavy Cavalry and have the same success as all archers....

With archer spam it's much easier to go through a dozen battles without losing any men at all compared to all heavy cavalry army which will inevitably suffer some attrition from lucky javelin headshots

[Muffin Man]

Sturgian Ulfhednars are insane shock troops that can dish out a lot of damage to literally everything. They're my only unit to not die after battles.

[Egro]

引用自 Bullshat：

引用自 jfoytek：

Sure you can go heavy anything and succeed.... Infact is I had 50 Legionary's only I would happily put them in a Shield wall and advance thru your barrage of arrows and come out on the other side with all your archers dead....

You could go all Heavy Cavalry and have the same success as all archers....

With archer spam it's much easier to go through a dozen battles without losing any men at all compared to all heavy cavalry army which will inevitably suffer some attrition from lucky javelin headshots

Yea, archers are so much cheaper and easier to obtain. Far far more cost effective. Though I do love my 40 men cataphract, it's the sight of beauty.

[redeyedraven]

引用自 Puppy：

Sturgian Ulfhednars are insane shock troops that can dish out a lot of damage to literally everything. They're my only unit to not die after battles.

If all your other troops die perhaps your composition isn't that good. Investing in some medical-skill is also a good idea. It's always better to play dead than be dead in the field :D

[Goatmanpig]

引用自 Puppy：

Sturgian Ulfhednars are insane shock troops that can dish out a lot of damage to literally everything. They're my only unit to not die after battles.

The beserker is better IMO, when you upgrade them to ulfhednars they lose armor.

[jfoytek]

引用自 Egro：

引用自 Bullshat：

With archer spam it's much easier to go through a dozen battles without losing any men at all compared to all heavy cavalry army which will inevitably suffer some attrition from lucky javelin headshots

Yea, archers are so much cheaper and easier to obtain. Far far more cost effective. Though I do love my 40 men cataphract, it's the sight of beauty. :lunar2019piginablanket:

Well if cost effectiveness is key then my army of 100 Peasants would be right up your alley!

^^^^ I actually did this never laughed so hard as i watched things get literally stoned to death before them!

[PartyMaster]

引用自 jfoytek：

引用自 Partymaster：

So what I'm noticing so far is the factions with the best units are

Sturgia(blue): Infantrymen and Spearmen

Battania(dark green): Archers

Vladians(orange): Knights and crossbowmen

Empire realms: just well rounded units, nothing special honestly

Khuzaits(Light Grean/Teal): Horse Archers

Aserai(brown): Skirmishers?

let me know if I'm wrong in any aspect, I'm curious to know who has the best of what unit wise for each faction.

So this is very generalized and not very specific...

Vlandian Banner Knights are pretty much on Par with Empire's Elite Catarachts In fact in many ways they are the same unit...

Pound for Pound these two cavalry units are likely the best of the best in the game!

however you cannot ignore fully upgraded Khuzite Horse Archers they are a force to recon with no doubt...

As for the Well rounded comment about the Empire I would take a Legionary against any other melee unit in the game!

Basically what I am trying to say is that there is a lot of parity or overlap between the factions you can often use any of the factions top tier troop for a specific purpose and it will be competative...

And then what are you doing with your troops???

If all you Have is Horse Archers well you are a monster on the open field no doubt, but your seige potential is vastly limited... And clearing bandit camps is maybe something you would just rather avoid as it puts your troops in a position their not best fit for....

Or if your all Infantry, 50% heavy infantry and 50% archers then Castles and Citys quake when you approach...

There is more rock paper scissor's then meats the eye and really there are no best units but there are certainly units that are good at specific jobs!

I was aiming more towards the best troops when it comes to efficiency overall and which factions had the best types of units. I usually take Sturgian Varyags for infantry because their stats are really good, they have good armor, can throw weapons, have anti cavalry potential with their spears and also 1H axes to fight close quarters with.