8 years of production?

[RagingPapaBear]

I love M&B, had BL on my wishlist since the moment it got a page on steam, but I feel this is terribly lackluster for the amount of time since the announcement. Yea I expect bugs and that the only way to resolve them is through letting the playerbase get their hands on the game, but I felt like there should be more? Especially with all of the mods on WB, and VC, they had a lot to spin off of (even thou this is 200+ years earlier).

That being said, don't feel this is hate, I have put time into the game already, and did 3-4 campaign restarts since they end quickly and the story is terribly grindy and incomplete, but I feel there is something missing. How do y'all feel about the game?

[Big Balls Ben]

Ignore the 8 years of development that was spewed out, from sources and guesswork based on gameplay and trailers shown, this game was made in 1-2 years. The studio and game was in 'dev hell' for a long long time. You can see this timescale as even more accurate since the devs believe they can get the rest of the game done in just a year.

[ryan]

They spent 4 years on an engine. Then scratched the engine and remade it. I don't understand the rumors.

[It's Dunk]

EiGhT yEaRs meme again lol. You can't be taken seriously when you say that. It's not a valid criticism.

[RagingPapaBear]

Originally posted by Bannerlord:

EiGhT yEaRs meme again lol. You can't be taken seriously when you say that. It's not a valid criticism.

When I see a game announced, then a trailer displayed 4 years later when they created their steam page, I will include that into development, regardless if they put 10 hours of work into it from 2012 to 2016, or decided to redo the entire thing when the steam page was launched, it is still 8 years worth of development, whether they brainstormed ideas, started coding, or put funds into the project.

[Lancenig]

It's a very odd time for gaming. Paying to beta test...I still don't know how I feel about it all.

[ryan]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/261550/discussions/0/2144217924384413611/

[Mr Jt (Gog is king)]

Originally posted by Lancenig:

It's a very odd time for gaming. Paying to beta test...I still don't know how I feel about it all.

It’s called early access if you can read it’s right on the front page

[RagingPapaBear]

Originally posted by ryantactics:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/261550/discussions/0/2144217924384413611/

So for example, 7 days to die, another game I love and enjoy, will be a forever alpha game it feels like, updated their engine so they had to do a near practical overhaul of their game, so does that mean with the new engine the time they started to "develop" the game starts back to day 1? No, so again, announcement, puts forth funding, regardless of coding started or not, the game was in some sort of development phase, just because they didn't like the engine and decided to redo it, doesn't mean anything to me, and even further so, lets give you the ball here. "4" years, still feels lackluster

[Flippy]

I just started the game for the first time and its an excellent start up. Making my character now and some small additions like sky blue eyes and some more hair choices would be nice.

So the start is excellent and character creation is good.

No chin options and choosing hair isnt easy so i tried this. :)

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2047215294

*Found more options.

[John Morgan]

*Laughs in Duke Nukem Forever*

[Teriria]

Originally posted by RagingPapaBearTTV:

Originally posted by ryantactics:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/261550/discussions/0/2144217924384413611/

So for example, 7 days to die, another game I love and enjoy, will be a forever alpha game it feels like, updated their engine so they had to do a near practical overhaul of their game, so does that mean with the new engine the time they started to "develop" the game starts back to day 1? No, so again, announcement, puts forth funding, regardless of coding started or not, the game was in some sort of development phase, just because they didn't like the engine and decided to redo it, doesn't mean anything to me, and even further so, lets give you the ball here. "4" years, still feels lackluster

Its not that really. Mount and blade isn't like other games where your assets can be easily transfered engine to engine. Strategy games like this live or die by the engine if paradox switched engine mid development for CK3 you bet your ass thats going to reset whatever development was made and taleworlds is much smaller then Paradox something like this can be devastating for other studios. A game like 7 days to die is your bog standard survival game not equivelent to Bannerlord in scope and scale. I really urge you to look more into game development to help expand this opinion of yours to provide you a more meaningful conclusion.
As I've also explained to my friends I'm not judging bannerlord by the product I have today now a year from now will be what my true feelings are and if TW has remained consistent with the patches and what not and so far they have.

[ryan]

Originally posted by RagingPapaBearTTV:

Originally posted by ryantactics:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/261550/discussions/0/2144217924384413611/

So for example, 7 days to die, another game I love and enjoy, will be a forever alpha game it feels like, updated their engine so they had to do a near practical overhaul of their game, so does that mean with the new engine the time they started to "develop" the game starts back to day 1? No, so again, announcement, puts forth funding, regardless of coding started or not, the game was in some sort of development phase, just because they didn't like the engine and decided to redo it, doesn't mean anything to me, and even further so, lets give you the ball here. "4" years, still feels lackluster

The last 8 years have been used to set up their ambitious game so over the next 2 years in early access development it can live up to the potential and ambitions they want. If they spend the next 2 years actually making the game and not trailing off like most games do, you’ll find the 8 years quite worth it. In 2 years the money you spent on this game you’ll find there is more content here then other Triple A titles.

[Lancenig]

Originally posted by Jt:

Originally posted by Lancenig:

It's a very odd time for gaming. Paying to beta test...I still don't know how I feel about it all.

It’s called early access if you can read it’s right on the front page

Thanks for that. I was really struggling with those big words. You are very helpful.

[RagingPapaBear]

Originally posted by Teriria:

Originally posted by RagingPapaBearTTV:

So for example, 7 days to die, another game I love and enjoy, will be a forever alpha game it feels like, updated their engine so they had to do a near practical overhaul of their game, so does that mean with the new engine the time they started to "develop" the game starts back to day 1? No, so again, announcement, puts forth funding, regardless of coding started or not, the game was in some sort of development phase, just because they didn't like the engine and decided to redo it, doesn't mean anything to me, and even further so, lets give you the ball here. "4" years, still feels lackluster

Its not that really. Mount and blade isn't like other games where your assets can be easily transfered engine to engine. Strategy games like this live or die by the engine if paradox switched engine mid development for CK3 you bet your ass thats going to reset whatever development was made and taleworlds is much smaller then Paradox something like this can be devastating for other studios. A game like 7 days to die is your bog standard survival game not equivelent to Bannerlord in scope and scale. I really urge you to look more into game development to help expand this opinion of yours to provide you a more meaningful conclusion.
As I've also explained to my friends I'm not judging bannerlord by the product I have today now a year from now will be what my true feelings are and if TW has remained consistent with the patches and what not and so far they have.

I am simply stating, 7d2d is made by a small dev team, and they did an overhaul, TW is a small dev team, sure I will not dispute that but they also didn't make out bad with funding from M&B, M&B Warband, and M&B F&S, especially when F&S was warband but some small broken content added and charged $10 for it. My dispute is, it is still 8 years worth of development, again, I am not stating 8 years of them going balls deep into coding the game because they were still doing stuff with Warband, and didn't have the people to work on both constantly, but they still had ideas, were working on it, and I am just saying I feel it currently fell abit short for how long it took.

[AdorableSparrow]

Originally posted by Flippy:

I just started the game for the first time and its an excellent start up. Making my character now and some small additions like ice blue eyes and some more hair choices would be nice.

So the start is excellent and character creation is good.

No chin options and choosing hair isnt easy so i tried this. :)

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2047215294

*Found more options.

i have ice blue eyes IRL >.<