Is it me or are crossbowman complete garbage?

[ranoutofcharac]

Its as if the vlandian crossbowman cannot compare to the imperial archers. I am tempted to get rid of them all and replace with imperials...

[iedy]

idk, vlandian and empire crossbowmen won me a 120 vs 54 (me) battle just because they were on a hill lol

[Rerstuf]

It's mostly because even low tier archers deal some serious damage while also firing much faster than crossbowmen.

[ranoutofcharac]

Originally posted by AoFA | iedy:

idk, vlandian and empire crossbowmen won me a 120 vs 54 (me) battle just because they were on a hill lol

I tried for 30 mins to beat a 100vs400, my crossbows were completely useless. Its like they miss every shot.

[Call_Me_Kujo]

The reload on crossbows is real. Better accuracy, but it doesn't matter when regular bowmen are already trained snipers lol.

[Heretek1914]

One of my preferred strats for warband/Perisno was to use heavy infantry and crossbows, but the oomph of crossbows seems largely uneeded unless you're firing en masse into heavy cavalry (source, was cavalry). Bows or thrown stuff seems to do better, not just in damage but volume.

[olivierasseb]

There are multiple units whose skill values are just plain wrong. If you look at your crossbowmen you'll see that they only have like 45 crossbow skill while having 130 bow skill.
Some upgraded unit tiers also have worse stats than those before...
There's a mod on the nexus that fixes some of these issues.

[Včelí medvídek]

imagine how much their kingdom spent on equipment... no wonder they left no money for actual combat training..

[ranoutofcharac]

Originally posted by Včelí medvídek:

imagine how much their kingdom spent on equipment... no wonder they left no money for actual combat training..

ikr I had 30 sharpshooters and they get a kill every 30 seconds.

[Včelí medvídek]

Originally posted by 1Ranoutofcharact™:

Originally posted by Včelí medvídek:

imagine how much their kingdom spent on equipment... no wonder they left no money for actual combat training..

ikr I had 30 sharpshooters and they get a kill every 30 seconds.

see,, pick up that 30 xbows and build a town for it;)

[Lil Grandpa]

Originally posted by Locklave:

In RL/Warband crossbows would be viable against heavy armor where as Archers should have nearly no impact. Saddly Archers are brokenly OP and crossbows are nothing but slower firing bows in this game.

If it was plate armor, you would have to be lucky to have it penetrate.

[Včelí medvídek]

Originally posted by Locklave:

In RL/Warband crossbows would be viable against heavy armor where as Archers should have nearly no impact. Saddly Archers are brokenly OP and crossbows are nothing but slower firing bows in this game.

Actualyl bows were always stronger - but needed investment to Powerdraw and in player case much better skil for accurate shot. Since like PD 6 even siege crossbow could not compete with war bow and it made bigger difference more above.

[Young Erusean Officer]

Xbows have much longer range, are more accurate and do more damage but the reload is very, very slow. They are the snipers of the game.

A high tier crossbowman will most times one shot a mid tier infantry or cavalry in the chest and one shot even high tier archers. Don't think many except Nobles can survive a headshot.

So DPM x Alpha your choice.