My thoughts on Kaiji's ban and the disappearance of his threads

[Phineus]

Dear Callum,

I find it both extremely concerning and disappointing that Kaiji was banned and his threads were censored, and it raises quite a few questions about how these forums will be managed.
Of course, this argument i will use can be quite subjective, but i really don't think Kaiji had negative intentions nor have crossed the line, at least not in a way that would award someone with a ban and basically censorship.

The reason i am concerned is because it really looks like censorship of negative opinions. If the issue was trully the way Kaiji was sometimes involved in fights, then why were his threads deleted? Many of them did not go against the rules & Guidelines of Steam in any way, and only consisted of criticism, although it can be argued it wasn't constructive all the time.

This occurrance really gives off the impression that anything that isn't constant praise of the game's bad situation will be deleted, locked, or have serious risk of being locked or deleted.

One thing i believe many can agree is that many of whom are still in these forums, activally discussing about a game that may as well not exist at this point, are people that admire and love Talewords or their work, and want to support Talewords and/or the game, as well as knowing about its state. But a developer team that hides criticism is really not something many will want to support

Those are my thoughts. Take it with a spoonful of salt.

Also, I do not think anything even oh-so-slightly related to Talewords is derailing, please don't prove my point by using a handful of people discussing political views as a excuse to close this thread.
And please remember, i am still here because i care about Talewords and it's community, and i want it to grow, as well as learn with their past errors.

-ADcrafter.

[Fallaner, the Writer Eternal]

Diposting pertama kali oleh gab.mcganicus:

Diposting pertama kali oleh ADcrafter:

Because it would be censoring criticism, this thread does not, in any way, go against the community guidelines.

But is this thread about the game?? New peopple coming to here, really need to know about that kaiji dude?? Why do must care?.

No. This thread is useless. You have expressed, Topic is here since Friday, and its all said.
You spoke, Callum spoke. What more is needed here?? Should be Closed.

You always cry 'about the game'.

Guess what: THERE IS NO BLOODY GAME.

And no forum has EVER been limited to JUST talking about a game (in this case, A GAME TW REFUSES TO TALK ABOUT), and not it's developers. We are entirely free to criticize the developers on a forum for their product they refuse to talk about.

Kaiji has, on multiple occasions, found information that made it seem like the game could be getting a release date soon. Sure, they were always wrong (Example 1 that comes to mind is when they hired the PR Company), but he tried.

Where's our Bicicle?

[Phineus]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Fallaner:

Diposting pertama kali oleh gab.mcganicus:

But is this thread about the game?? New peopple coming to here, really need to know about that kaiji dude?? Why do must care?.

No. This thread is useless. You have expressed, Topic is here since Friday, and its all said.
You spoke, Callum spoke. What more is needed here?? Should be Closed.

You always cry 'about the game'.

Guess what: THERE IS NO BLOODY GAME.

And no forum has EVER been limited to JUST talking about a game (in this case, A GAME TW REFUSES TO TALK ABOUT), and not it's developers. We are entirely free to criticize the developers on a forum for their product they refuse to talk about.

Kaiji has, on multiple occasions, found information that made it seem like the game could be getting a release date soon. Sure, they were always wrong (Example 1 that comes to mind is when they hired the PR Company), but he tried.

Where's our Bicicle?

+1, and thanks.

[gab.mc]

Enought with that kaiji boy... if u re liking him that bad, find him and have children if you want.
Forum will be a better place now without him.

PERIOD.

[Phineus]

Diposting pertama kali oleh gab.mcganicus:

Enought with that kaiji boy... if u re liking him that bad, find him and have children if you want.
Forum will be a better place now without him.

PERIOD.

This thread is not only about Kaiji, it is also about TW`s unethical behavior, and if you believe you can only defend someone if they are your love interest, then you must be very lonely.

[gab.mc]

Hahahahahahahahahhaha good one... unethical Behavior! hahahahahahahha.
that evil company, banning someone for insulting them.

[Phineus]

Diposting pertama kali oleh gab.mcganicus:

Hahahahahahahahahhaha good one... unethical Behavior! hahahahahahahha.
that evil company, banning someone for insulting them.

And not banning you for continuously insulting others and creating a toxic atmosphere.

[Fallaner, the Writer Eternal]

Diposting pertama kali oleh ADcrafter:

Diposting pertama kali oleh gab.mcganicus:

Hahahahahahahahahhaha good one... unethical Behavior! hahahahahahahha.
that evil company, banning someone for insulting them.

And not banning you for continuously insulting others and creating a toxic atmosphere.

#BeConsistentWithYourPrinciplesTWs

[gab.mc]

Diposting pertama kali oleh ADcrafter:

Diposting pertama kali oleh gab.mcganicus:

Hahahahahahahahahhaha good one... unethical Behavior! hahahahahahahha.
that evil company, banning someone for insulting them.

And not banning you for continuously insulting others and creating a toxic atmosphere.

You re wrong. I got banned. Same as Kaiji... For a week.
Since THEN i did not insulting no one (YEt, believe me, i want to, so badly).
I can learn, he can not so he get second Ban.

Its reallyso hard to understand??


Edit: If you find one insult toward someone after 31/july from me... I will give you another bike

[Phineus]

Diposting pertama kali oleh gab.mcganicus:

Diposting pertama kali oleh ADcrafter:

And not banning you for continuously insulting others and creating a toxic atmosphere.

You re wrong. I got banned. Same as Kaiji... For a week.
Since THEN i did not insulting no one (YEt, believe me, i want to, so badly).
I can learn, he can not so he get second Ban.

Its reallyso hard to understand??


Edit: If you find one insult toward someone after 31/july from me... I will give you another bike

Your behavior has not only been toxic, but is also highly hypocritical:
1- You call Kaiji a "conspiracy theorist" and say that's one of the reasons he was banned, and yet, you constantly accuse me of being an alt account, even though there's a lot of evidence pointing in the contrary. Doesn't that sound a little bit like a... conspiracy theory?

2- You say Kaiji's threads and comments were not about the game, and, although that logic is highly flawed, if it was true, you'd be just as guilty of it.

3- You claim Kaiji derailed threads and made them toxic, and yet you still lurk here, raising conspiracy theories against me and essencially derailing this topic, which is mainly about TW's behavior.

Gab, the only reason you have not been banned yet is that you defend TW with the ferocity of an wild animal, ignoring anything wrong that Talewords and Callum do.

Edit: added the word 'hypocritical' which i had forgotten to put

[Fallaner, the Writer Eternal]

Diposting pertama kali oleh gab.mcganicus:

Diposting pertama kali oleh ADcrafter:

And not banning you for continuously insulting others and creating a toxic atmosphere.

You re wrong. I got banned. Same as Kaiji... For a week.
Since THEN i did not insulting no one (YEt, believe me, i want to, so badly).
I can learn, he can not so he get second Ban.

Its reallyso hard to understand??


Edit: If you find one insult toward someone after 31/july from me... I will give you another bike

Here, Gab. I went and took a bunch of YOUR lines, that can be seen as insults, all from AFTER the 31st of July!

"Enought with that kaiji boy... if u re liking him that bad, find him and have children if you want. "
"Finally someone with common sense"
"go ahead, find him on other forum, arrange a date and kiss him"
"Yeah "good points"... Just for Conspiracy theory lovers as him/her"
"any "potential kaiji" is banned faster."
"We will never see that horrible avatar again."

Many are character attacks, implication that you can only defend someone if you want to date them/be romantically involved with them.

You insinuated that only someone who agrees with you possesses common sense. Not just insinuated, but practically said it.

Insulting Kaiji's avatar.

Calling anyone who agreed with Kaiji a "Conspiracy Theorist"

Advocating the swift banning of seemingly anyone who agreed with Kaiji.

I expect both bikes to be delivered to my house by this time next week.

[gab.mc]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Fallaner:

Diposting pertama kali oleh gab.mcganicus:

You re wrong. I got banned. Same as Kaiji... For a week.
Since THEN i did not insulting no one (YEt, believe me, i want to, so badly).
I can learn, he can not so he get second Ban.

Its reallyso hard to understand??


Edit: If you find one insult toward someone after 31/july from me... I will give you another bike

Here, Gab. I went and took a bunch of YOUR lines, that can be seen as insults, all from AFTER the 31st of July!

"Enought with that kaiji boy... if u re liking him that bad, find him and have children if you want. "
"Finally someone with common sense"
"go ahead, find him on other forum, arrange a date and kiss him"
"Yeah "good points"... Just for Conspiracy theory lovers as him/her"
"any "potential kaiji" is banned faster."
"We will never see that horrible avatar again."

Many are character attacks, implication that you can only defend someone if you want to date them/be romantically involved with them.

You insinuated that only someone who agrees with you possesses common sense. Not just insinuated, but practically said it.

Insulting Kaiji's avatar.

Calling anyone who agreed with Kaiji a "Conspiracy Theorist"

Advocating the swift banning of seemingly anyone who agreed with Kaiji.

I expect both bikes to be delivered to my house by this time next week.

Yet now insulting ANYONE.
You must be the best student in your class arent you??
Stil you dont win those bikes, you failed at both task.

[gab.mc]

Diposting pertama kali oleh ADcrafter:

Diposting pertama kali oleh gab.mcganicus:

You re wrong. I got banned. Same as Kaiji... For a week.
Since THEN i did not insulting no one (YEt, believe me, i want to, so badly).
I can learn, he can not so he get second Ban.

Its reallyso hard to understand??


Edit: If you find one insult toward someone after 31/july from me... I will give you another bike

Your behavior has not only been toxic, but is also highly:
1- You call Kaiji a "conspiracy theorist" and say that's one of the reasons he was banned, and yet, you constantly accuse me of being an alt account, even though there's a lot of evidence pointing in the contrary. Doesn't that sound a little bit like a... conspiracy theory?

2- You say Kaiji's threads and comments were not about the game, and, although that logic is highly flawed, if it was true, you'd be just as guilty of it.

3- You claim Kaiji derailed threads and made them toxic, and yet you still lurk here, raising conspiracy theories against me and essencially derailing this topic, which is mainly about TW's behavior.

Gab, the only reason you have not been banned yet is that you defend TW with the ferocity of an wild animal, ignoring anything wrong that Talewords and Callum do.

Callum said that, not only me.
And you write and sounf exactly like kaiji.
Bye Kaiji! nice to talk with you again bro

[Fallaner, the Writer Eternal]

Diposting pertama kali oleh gab.mcganicus:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Fallaner:

Here, Gab. I went and took a bunch of YOUR lines, that can be seen as insults, all from AFTER the 31st of July!

"Enought with that kaiji boy... if u re liking him that bad, find him and have children if you want. "
"Finally someone with common sense"
"go ahead, find him on other forum, arrange a date and kiss him"
"Yeah "good points"... Just for Conspiracy theory lovers as him/her"
"any "potential kaiji" is banned faster."
"We will never see that horrible avatar again."

Many are character attacks, implication that you can only defend someone if you want to date them/be romantically involved with them.

You insinuated that only someone who agrees with you possesses common sense. Not just insinuated, but practically said it.

Insulting Kaiji's avatar.

Calling anyone who agreed with Kaiji a "Conspiracy Theorist"

Advocating the swift banning of seemingly anyone who agreed with Kaiji.

I expect both bikes to be delivered to my house by this time next week.

Yet now insulting ANYONE.
You must be the best student in your class arent you??
Stil you dont win those bikes, you failed at both task.

No. Pretty sure I succeeded at both.

I demonstrated that you insulted people (including me, just now, with your sarcastic remark), and also gave an example of Kaiji talking about the game.

[gab.mc]

Haha you want that bikes so badly... Ok.
"Hello Fallaner, how are you today?"
"Omg u just insulted me, only asking about today, i am alive for years and you re not asking about yesterday, or last week. That is assault. I felt offended. Callum ban him"


Edit: I also find your avatar as repulsive as kaiji`s. Is that bad?

[Fallaner, the Writer Eternal]

Diposting pertama kali oleh gab.mcganicus:

Haha you want that bikes so badly... Ok.
"Hello Fallaner, how are you today?"
"Omg u just insulted me, only asking about today, i am alive for years and you re not asking about yesterday, or last week. That is assault. I felt offended. Callum ban him"

"You must be the best student in your class arent you??"

Is an evidently sarcastic quip, and thus meant as an insult, implying i'm not a very good student.

Oh, and now you're mocking.

As such, you're insulting. The very thing you said you stopped doing.