2 swords?

[Vermax]

Do you think we will be able to just have 2 swords like in spartacus??

[Krug Herder]

Hollywood and fantasy. No place for it in Bannerlord.

[bewest169]

Thanks,this is what you get when you put this game on Xbox and playstation that the uneducated think that all games are fantasy trolls-magic and dragons,Bannerlord will disapoint these tweebs,its 100% historic "dark ages "accurate weapons and armor keep in mind this is over 100 years before the steel armor and tall stone castles,

[Myriad]

Well, there are some accounts of dual wielding in history, but it's very uncommon, and in 99% of cases a sword and shield combo wins.

[redeyedraven]

Originally posted by hey boy):

No. Dual-wielding comes from hollywood, not from history.

In terms of martial arts it kinda *does* have historic roots. It was just not something you'd see on actual battlefields or in serious duels as it was mostly for show.
There were practical parrying-weapons though, typically daggers similar to the Sai. Those *were* intended for use with the "shield-hand".

[Space_Void]

Problem with dual wielding has always been the split focus. Human minds aren't meant to work that way. It would take a real wierdo to be an effective dual wielder. That or he would need to have eyes they can move independantly of each other. The problem is having two complicated weapons vs having a shield that more of less has one or two moves and a sword that you can devote full focus to. In such a match up you can bet the shield user will always win, not only due to better defense, but better focus.

[The Puppetmaster]

What about sword and dagger? The problem with dual wielding, Space, is the swords getting crossed, not "split focus". A VERY experienced swordsman, and it's unlikely to ever encounter someone that experienced I'd say, might be able to dual wield swords, but it's more likely to encounter a dagger and sword. Here's a good video on it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc8akxwI56s

I think the biggest problem with dual wielding is that you're giving up the defense a shield offers. A shield can block blows from more than one direction, it can block arrows from archers, but most importantly it blocks multiple blows coming in at once. Dual wielding might work in a one-on-one duel, but in a battle it wouldn't be practical, considering you will often find yourself sorrounded by attackers.

I myself would not completely denounce the idea of duel wielding, maybe in a mod just for fun. Look at Perisno, dual wielding might fit into a mod like that one, one that is closer to fantasy than it is vanilla M&B. I might like the option to dual wield in vanilla (at my own risk), but it's not really realistic.

[Phaser Rave]

Yeah, you can have two swords. You can have two-hundred, but you can only use one at a time.

[Barry White]

Originally posted by Obi-wan:

Do you think we will be able to just have 2 swords like in spartacus??

2 swords do you have an ounce of creativity? I want to dual wield shields: maximum protection.

[Caedo]

Actually it was common in nordic raiding partys or warabnds to weird dual swords or dual axes, when attacking villages or towns, weilding two weapons gave the fighter a chance to do more damage and kill more people.
Agreed you are extremely vulnerable to archers but a second sword or axe can pretty much block anything a shield can, provided your aware of the weapon coming at you, i dont see the harm in dual wielding, it just shows the amount of flexibility and options available to the game, if someone wants to use two swords, good luck to them, in most battles you will encounter atleast 10 archers, so the person will learn the hard way being killed before running 20 yards.
I'd hope to see the possibility to arm yourself in anyway you like, there is a reason that particular weapon combinations (Sword shield) were used historically, it was just more effective and your more likely to survive a battle.

[Mr Conspicuous]

Miyamoto Musashi

[Sukberia]

Originally posted by Caedo #:

Actually it was common in nordic raiding partys or warabnds to weird dual swords or dual axes, when attacking villages or towns, weilding two weapons gave the fighter a chance to do more damage and kill more people.
Agreed you are extremely vulnerable to archers but a second sword or axe can pretty much block anything a shield can, provided your aware of the weapon coming at you, i dont see the harm in dual wielding, it just shows the amount of flexibility and options available to the game, if someone wants to use two swords, good luck to them, in most battles you will encounter atleast 10 archers, so the person will learn the hard way being killed before running 20 yards.
I'd hope to see the possibility to arm yourself in anyway you like, there is a reason that particular weapon combinations (Sword shield) were used historically, it was just more effective and your more likely to survive a battle.

The nordics? You mean the overated-viking-barbarians-who-were-destroyed-by-pretty-much-any-disciplined-army-that-stood-against-them-"muh superior aryan race"-idiotic nordics?







Yeah, not impressed.

[Loch.]

Originally posted by hey boy):

No. Dual-wielding comes from hollywood, not from history.

their was a samurai who dual wielded and during the era when rapiers were the most common sword their were parring daggers so not hollwood but your not meant to strike with off hand sword just deffend but as for gladiators its posible they dual wield after all they were perfermorers

[gab.mc]

I really love that. But will not be in BL.

[Flippy]

Originally posted by Alberto Barbosa:

Originally posted by Caedo #:

Actually it was common in nordic raiding partys or warabnds to weird dual swords or dual axes, when attacking villages or towns, weilding two weapons gave the fighter a chance to do more damage and kill more people.
Agreed you are extremely vulnerable to archers but a second sword or axe can pretty much block anything a shield can, provided your aware of the weapon coming at you, i dont see the harm in dual wielding, it just shows the amount of flexibility and options available to the game, if someone wants to use two swords, good luck to them, in most battles you will encounter atleast 10 archers, so the person will learn the hard way being killed before running 20 yards.
I'd hope to see the possibility to arm yourself in anyway you like, there is a reason that particular weapon combinations (Sword shield) were used historically, it was just more effective and your more likely to survive a battle.

The nordics? You mean the overated-viking-barbarians-who-were-destroyed-by-pretty-much-any-disciplined-army-that-stood-against-them-"muh superior aryan race"-idiotic nordics?







Yeah, not impressed.

There are still some Southern Europeans left that have not been wiped out. Maybe wait until we are all gone before hurling lies in public. Your not holding a gun on me at the moment.

Northern and Southern Europeans had quite a few differences. Southern Europeans have been almost completely wiped out from invasion, much like the North Africans and North Americans.

I am not overly interested in this subject, in fact i was entirely ignorant of it most of my life.... but I have faced racism every day of my life because of being blonde hair and blue eyes Southern European.

I guess my parents thought it was better if I didnt know. I think they were wrong. The situation is also way worse than many can imagine.

I had little choice but to respond to this reply under the circumstances.

[Chaos Laicosin]

I haven't read through all the posts in depth, this is just my 2 cents.

Dual weilding was not something that was done in large battles. Without a shield one could not defend against arrows, or take part in any formation (since they all pretty much required shelders).

Dual weilding may have been done in duels in later centuries (long after bannerlord is set).

The idea that you can deal more damage with two weapons is false. There is no martial art to use (or really any logical way) that you could ready a good defense while intending to attack with both weapons. You would be getting in very close, you would be standing with your chest to the enemy, and your footing wouldn't allow for powerful strikes.

And if you are planning to use the dagger to deflect attacks then just use a shield, more effective.

But then again they never really did get sword&board combat right in Warband. You wouldn't move your shield out to the side and behind your back when striking with a weapon...