So...do you think Arvo was a bad guy, scared, or just dumb?

[TITOMOSQUITO187]

that Russian kid Arvo that Kenny always beat the crap out of? When you first met him he was hiding medicine and supplies. He was stealing from his own crew with his sister I reckon and they were going to leave the other guys behind you think?

Because even if you didn't steal from him (Clem says not to steal and Jane does NOT steal his stuff, but he still says you did). He hid the stuff elsewhere after that and then went back and said he got robbed so they wouldn't kill him. Then they wanted to go find you and get the stuff back. I don't think he wanted to attack you, or intended to be a bad guy, but he was too scared to stick up to those bandits and just leave maybe. Still..if he could get away to hide that stuff he could have easily gotten away with his sister right?

Was he just manipulating everyone, or was he just a dumb, scared kid? He then shot Clem as he obviously convinced Mike and Bonnie to leave without Kenny, Clem, and Jane. That he could shoot Clem makes me think that he is more of a manipulator and probably an evil guy that uses that defenseless scam to get peopel to trust him and let their guard down. We may see more of Alvo as an evil genius later.

Since they did all "ran off intot he woods" as Kenny said in the truck. Maybe sooner than later if you are with Jane right? I am thinking that is the way they would go since they know where that is and two of them are from there.

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[Steven Chilton]

Originally posted by TITOMOSQUITO187:

that Russian kid Arvo that Kenny always beat the crap out of? When you first met him he was hiding medicine and supplies. He was stealing from his own crew with his sister I reckon and they were going to leave the other guys behind you think?

Because even if you didn't steal from him (Clem says not to steal and Jane does NOT steal his stuff, but he still says you did). He hid the stuff elsewhere after that and then went back and said he got robbed so they wouldn't kill him. Then they wanted to go find you and get the stuff back. I don't think he wanted to attack you, or intended to be a bad guy, but he was too scared to stick up to those bandits and just leave maybe. Still..if he could get away to hide that stuff he could have easily gotten away with his sister right?

Was he just manipulating everyone, or was he just a dumb, scared kid? He then shot Clem as he obviously convinced Mike and Bonnie to leave without Kenny, Clem, and Jane. That he could shoot Clem makes me think that he is more of a manipulator and probably an evil guy that uses that defenseless scam to get peopel to trust him and let their guard down. We may see more of Alvo as an evil genius later. :reusgreed:

Since they did all "ran off intot he woods" as Kenny said in the truck. Maybe sooner than later if you are with Jane right? I am thinking that is the way they would go since they know where that is and two of them are from there.

this is really wrong he doesn't hide it elsewhere jane steals his gun that's all this is about

[Talon]

Evil. Deserved Death shortly after gunfight. Desperately needed to be shot through the head. We needed a different sort of strong antagonistic force in Episode 5 than Arvo.

[Steven Chilton]

Originally posted by Talon:

Evil. Deserved Death shortly after gunfight. Desperately needed to be shot through the head. We needed a different sort of strong antagonistic force in Episode 5 than Arvo.

yea i agree he did and he shoots clementine for no reason

[TITOMOSQUITO187]

Originally posted by {Radio} Lee:

this is really wrong he doesn't hide it elsewhere jane steals his gun that's all this is about

He told them he got his stuff taken. If he would have just said they stole his gun he would have said it I would think when they held the group up. So he had to have hid it elsewhere. He WAS trying to hide that stuff when they ran into him in the first place too so he was going to tell them someone stole it I reckon no matter what had happened. It kind of jsut worked out for him that they ran into him, or was it really just a coincidence? Doubtful...since there is no way he wandered int here and didn't see ANY of those guys roaming around, or sitting at the park int he middle. I think he picked that place on purpose.

[Steven Chilton]

Originally posted by TITOMOSQUITO187:

Originally posted by {Radio} Lee:

this is really wrong he doesn't hide it elsewhere jane steals his gun that's all this is about

He told them he got his stuff taken. If he would have just said they stole his gun he would have said it I would think when they held the group up. So he had to have hid it elsewhere. He WAS trying to hide that stuff when they ran into him in the first place too so he was going to tell them someone stole it I reckon no matter what had happened. It kind of jsut worked out for him that they ran into him, or was it really just a coincidence? Doubtful...since there is no way he wandered int here and didn't see ANY of those guys roaming around, or sitting at the park int he middle. I think he picked that place on purpose.

but they didn't take his stuff and anyways that isn't the point in this argument the argument is is he bad for what he does and yes he is if what you say is true that means he got his sister and friends killed just to hurt some people and at the end of the day shoot an 11 year old girl

[TITOMOSQUITO187]

Originally posted by {Radio} Lee:

Originally posted by TITOMOSQUITO187:

He told them he got his stuff taken. If he would have just said they stole his gun he would have said it I would think when they held the group up. So he had to have hid it elsewhere. He WAS trying to hide that stuff when they ran into him in the first place too so he was going to tell them someone stole it I reckon no matter what had happened. It kind of jsut worked out for him that they ran into him, or was it really just a coincidence? Doubtful...since there is no way he wandered int here and didn't see ANY of those guys roaming around, or sitting at the park int he middle. I think he picked that place on purpose.

but they didn't take his stuff and anyways that isn't the point in this argument the argument is is he bad for what he does and yes he is if what you say is true that means he got his sister and friends killed just to hurt some people and at the end of the day shoot an 11 year old girl

I don't disagree that he is evil. That was already what I said int he OP.

I jsut wanted to get all the facts straight. There was a reason he was out there hiding that stuff, and that ADDS to him being evil imo. That he was calculated in hiding that stuff and he hid it by them because he had to have known they were there just in case his group found out he stole it. Makes him stupid too though because your group could ahve easily taken it all away from him as well.

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Originally posted by {Radio} Lee:

Originally posted by Talon:

Evil. Deserved Death shortly after gunfight. Desperately needed to be shot through the head. We needed a different sort of strong antagonistic force in Episode 5 than Arvo.

yea i agree he did and he shoots clementine for no reason

If you actually think it's "no reason" then you are wrong.

[TITOMOSQUITO187]

Originally posted by Confused Potato:

Originally posted by {Radio} Lee:

yea i agree he did and he shoots clementine for no reason

If you actually think it's "no reason" then you are wrong.

Sure there is a "reason", but I don't even know if he meant to do it either. It's hard to tell, but I expect he did it on purpose and he is evil. He's a good actor at pretending to be a scared kid who doesn't know what he is doing. It's hard to tell if he is supposed to actually be scared, or he is calculated. You could argue that he is just scared the entire time too based on how he acts.

[Yes, I have a Mic.]

It doesn't matter which. In season 3 hes going to die. Horribly

[Steven Chilton]

Originally posted by Confused Potato:

Originally posted by {Radio} Lee:

yea i agree he did and he shoots clementine for no reason

If you actually think it's "no reason" then you are wrong.

to shoot clementine for what? you don't have to threaten mike but he will still shoot you either way if you stole didn't steal if you tried to protect him if you went against him if you threatend mike no matter what you do he shoots you for no reason

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Originally posted by {Radio} Lee:

Originally posted by Confused Potato:

If you actually think it's "no reason" then you are wrong.

to shoot clementine for what? you don't have to threaten mike but he will still shoot you either way if you stole didn't steal if you tried to protect him if you went against him if you threatend mike no matter what you do he shoots you for no reason

She killed his sister. Now before you say "BUT SHE WAS DUH ZAMBIE", Arvo didn't know this, he thought his sister was alive. Now picture this.

Your helping your sister, then out of nowhere, you are grabbed by an angry bearded man and taken hostage, then the next thing you see, your sister getting shot by an 11 year old girl.

I don't know about you, but if i saw that, i would wanna shoot her.

[Steven Chilton]

Originally posted by Confused Potato:

Originally posted by {Radio} Lee:

to shoot clementine for what? you don't have to threaten mike but he will still shoot you either way if you stole didn't steal if you tried to protect him if you went against him if you threatend mike no matter what you do he shoots you for no reason

She killed his sister. Now before you say "BUT SHE WAS DUH ZAMBIE", Arvo didn't know this, he thought his sister was alive. Now picture this.

Your helping your sister, then out of nowhere, you are grabbed by an angry bearded man and taken hostage, then the next thing you see, your sister getting shot by an 11 year old girl.

I don't know about you, but if i saw that, i would wanna shoot her.

you do understand why this was needed but he attacked them first you can be nice to him and he will be a ♥♥♥♥ now i will say that i would be quite sad but i kinda deserved it

[Melf0r]

first of all i would be interested to join this group but dont know how.

2nd. i have never been sure what this dude was thinking. i mean i really robbed him and knew that this will bring harsh consequences. maybe he is a bad manipulator, he also didnt chose a side when the gunfight starts, he led them directly to the house and talked mike and bonnie into leaving them behind.

there is one thing i dont understand:
> arvo took the medicine from his group and (in another path) said he got robbed, but stole it himself...
> when clems group goes to the camp of the russians they walk 2 days to get there.
> clems group stays one night at the first floor of that building and reaches the snowy scenes in the following day.
> so arvo must have stolen the stuff with his sister, walked 2 days to the history museum, "gets robbed", and walkes half a day to the wrecked house to his old crew and half a day back to surround clems group?

also i dont think the russians left/hid one can at their place to go south 2 days. they also must have searched wellington...

[Hoshikudaki]

I wouldn't say Arvo convince Mike and Bonnie leave by rather Mike offered to take Arvo with him & Bonnie since:
1. Wanted to get away from Kenny in the first place.
2. Arvo didn't deserve the all the beatings from Kenny
3. Knew he was in pain from losing his sister.

I think regardless of whether or not you stole from him, his group wanted your supplies.
It does raise suspicion if you didn't steal from him that his group does not have the meds, this does look like he was planning something or could be following his sister's instruction since I don't think Arvo would be one to take an initiative.