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I think more than being the main villain, he was meant for another purpose, and it was to make Clementine feel like she could be the main villain, and yeah the "You and I are not so different" theme is very cliche and all, but I think it's different in this case since this 40 year old sociopath says so to a 12 year old girl, IMO, Telltale is aiming to make some really uncomfortable scenarios with Clem after what happened with Carver, and for me that's fine, by this point Season 2 is more about Clem rather than the people who travel with her.
Too many for me to repeat myself here in this thread when I've commented on this very topic in depth in earlier threads and discussions. Look for them if you would have my Encyclopedia Carter on the number of holes Telltale opened up to crank this one out the door and the ways they wasted the entire premise of 400 days and the only potential for depth Season 2 had built up in episodes 1 and 2.
Suffice to say the obvious shortest answer is yes, they completely wasted his potential as a morally grey villian to turn him into a cartoon villian in the interests of rushing the episode to an abrupt 90 minute ending.
They shortcircuited absolutely everything else that makes a deep impactful story in the name of the All Holy Rush to get Episode 3 'done' yesterday so they could work more on other projects also in the midst of their episodic updates and a new project dealing with an apocalypse where the sun winks out of existence or something.
This 'new direction' Telltale is going in isn't new at all. They will sacrifice the long-term health of the company which relies upon maintaining the loyalty of their customer base in favor of short term gains and profits...mark my words!
This was exactly what I thought, but I still have a feeling that he could have been used as a main villian in the series, because of the great built up he recieved. I mean the guy is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ evil and the voice actor does a amazing job with that old craspy voice. He is undoubtedly the best villian in the whole franchise maybe even better than The Governor, so I just have a wierd feeling that having him around a littler more would strengthen the hatred we have against him as players, and maybe build the hype for episode 4 heck even 5 more.
But... you are probably right, his death may just be a great way to set up a dark Big Boss-ish (Metal Gear Solid) tone for Clementine and maybe make the decisions at the end a little darker and harder. Who knows?
The rush to get episode three done which took the same amount of time as episode two where Carver recieved his development as a morally grey character? Which was also a ninety minute episode.There is nothing which supports the idea the episode was 'rushed' in favour of other projects except opinion.
I agree with you. It would have given a cohensiveness to the entire Season that might have culminated in a fantastic finish yet now Carter's dead. Guess that can't happen now. Oh, well...its true what they say.
Great Setup. Disappointing Payoff. Bitter Aftertaste. TWD Season 2.
Buy your copy today!
There hasn't been any payoff yet, the Season is hardly halfway through. There can't even be a definitive aftertaste yet.
IMO, I think is well paced so far, CaRver had enough build up, we know enough to make our own judgements about the character, yet we're left in the shadows in a lot of details that make us keep wondering about the character in a good way, it's one of those cases in which the more you know, the less interesting it is, again, in my opinion that is.
Will Talia will organize the tattered remnants of Carver's group to hunt down and kill Kenny's group?
Will Rebecca have to give birth in the woods surrounded by walkers going "Duh, duh, D'oh! Oops!" as hundreds of Walkers come from miles around to witness the blessed event?
Will Kenny lacking all form of depth perception and suddenly without a girlfriend go completely batdung insane?
Will Jane reveal her true nature as Dark Lady of the Sith by letting Rebecca and baby serve as more zombie bait while she takes her budding apprentice away from the rest of the group? Will she kill more of the group for fun and profit to appease her homicidal appetites?
Will Carver rise again drawing DS energy from all the Sith powers animating all these walking moaning cannibal corpses?
The answer to all these questions is no but that's just 'opinion.' It might happen since everything not spoken directly from Telltale is just another opinion that can't possibly have any substance to it.
Since Telltale hasn't said anything we can't know if the sun will rise in the east and set in the west tomorrow since that's just another 'opinion' unsubstantiated by Telltale Studios.
I also can't know since Telltale hasn't told us if the sky is actually blue or the clouds white since I have only my own eyes to see so they give me just another 'opinion.' to share with all of you.
In my opinion, they wasted a chance to have a more human dictator that didn't go overboard crazy stupid Evil at the first available opportunity.
In my opinion, this is Telltale being lazy and overextended so they rushed production to get this episode out the door instead of giving us more depth and substance to the secondary characters.
They could have teased Clementine with the sense that Carver's community represented home and family instead of trying to destroy Carver's community at the first possible opportunity.
Clem could have realistically been pulled in both directions at once then chosen a Hagel-like synthesis between them both. That would have been more heroic than using zombies to kill another human community just to save your own skin. Make no mistake everyone in Carver's community assuming any survive will be out for blood themselves. Clems group is wounded with a pregnant lady without provisions surrounded by walkers. They are so incredibly stupid and inane that thinking about this story you say wasn't rushed in any depth sends icepick shooting pains behind my eye sockets. You are far too forgiving.
If we discount the cartoon villian antics of Carver in episode 3, his actions in 1 and 2 had a grey sort of moral code to it that suggested without actually showing us in depth that there was a lot more to this story than just Cabin Group = Good. Carver Group = Evil dynamic.
Taking the angle that the Cabin Group murdered and endangered others for their own selfish desires and Carver was actually devoted to a cause higher than petty vengeance and villanry would have been a 'new direction' that I could have supported.
His actions in episode one don't get a full explanation. You find a group of bodies and the suggestion is Carver killed them. As to actually what occured and why has been given no answer as a result that doesn't actually support the morally grey Carver or the cartoonish villiany in episode three.
The table scene........there has to be more too it.
Sorry to maybe break your bubble, but in the tailer for ep 4
we clearly hear kenny saying that Luke is missing AGAIN.
This is what the second or more time he done it to clem lol,
I wonder where hes off to know or if they dont wanna write his char lol
The first time so far. As previously he held back so as not to captured by Carver and attempt to rescue everyone despite failing to do so.