I think you should've gotten a real serious talk about Sarah with Carlos

[Sexy Space Spinach]

Y'know, Carlos never really ended up having much interaction with you outside of the "group meetings". I would have liked to have a private conversation with him about that he would eventually have to teach Sarah how to at least defend herself because sooner or later she would get in trouble.

And I do know that he dies and so does Sarah later. But the thing is that it would have given me satisfaction to at least give him a real wake up call and really raise my voice to make him to take Clementine seriously. Also it would have been nice to actually see him interact with Sarah in a way that wasn't "go away and read your book"

[Ouch My Brainz]

Just imagine that it did have better interactions with those characters. Make your fan fic a reality by writing it down on a piece of paper and then get drunk while reading what you wrote over, and over again until you go to sleep. Wake up the next day burn the paper and forget about the whole thing being fake. In a month's time you will swear that it did happen in the game and in the end you will be happier knowing that you made it all possible.

[dynoman6]

When Carlos checks your stitching, he explains very clearly that Sarah would just shut down if she was confronted with reality. This is exactly what happens eventually. She is clearly totally incapable of learning to defend herself and Carlos understands this very well.

During this conversation, theres an option to tell him that Sarah needs to grow up. Carlos quite rightly tells you that you don't understand his daughters needs.

There are plenty of times when Carlos and Sarah are off camera, its highly likely that he spends as much time with her as possible but considering he's the only doctor and actually quite an active member of the group, its fairly reasonable that we don't see him interacting with Sarah much.

[Sexy Space Spinach]

Originally posted by dynoman6:

When Carlos checks your stitching, he explains very clearly that Sarah would just shut down if she was confronted with reality. This is exactly what happens eventually. She is clearly totally incapable of learning to defend herself and Carlos understands this very well.

During this conversation, theres an option to tell him that Sarah needs to grow up. Carlos quite rightly tells you that you don't understand his daughters needs.

There are plenty of times when Carlos and Sarah are off camera, its highly likely that he spends as much time with her as possible but considering he's the only doctor and actually quite an active member of the group, its fairly reasonable that we don't see him interacting with Sarah much.

Yeah i know about the option to tell Carlos that Sarah has to grow up sooner or later. I even chose option.

But personally i thought it would have been nicer if Clem actually got to raise her voice to him y'know. Because he and Sarah sure didnt get any character development that made them think about their choices

[dynoman6]

Carlos is Sarahs father AND a doctor.

You think an eleven year old child who hardly knows Sarah has the knowledge to judge whether Carlos is doing a good job of looking after her?

I would question whether an expert in pediatric mental health could make that judgement given the evidence available to Clem.

I certainly don't think it would be appropriate (or in character) for Clem to raise her voice to him about this and if she did, the most likely response would be another put down. What makes you think Clem raising her voice to him would have a positive effect?

[ALT08]

I agree with dynoman - Carlos was Sarah's father, and a doctor. We're made to disgaree with his methodology, but it's innapropriate as a young girl to question his authority as a parent and a leader.

I think Sarah's main purpose was to contrast with Clementine. One child suffers emotionally but learns to survive, while the other is left naive and struggles because of it.

So yes, as the audience it's definitely frustrating to see Carlos' mistakes as a caretaker result in his daughter's inability to protect herself compared to all of the things Lee taught Clem. But it's also not our position or right to call him out on it.

[dynoman6]

Originally posted by ALT08:

...as the audience it's definitely frustrating to see Carlos' mistakes as a caretaker result in his daughter's inability to protect herself compared to all of the things Lee taught Clem....

Sarah clearly has some kind of learning disability/mental health problems. My main point is that we have only the vaguest notions what they are and how they affect her abilities so we are not in a position to judge whether he is making mistakes.

Carlos clearly cares very deeply about Sarah and as a doctor you would expect him to have educated himself about her condition long before the ZA started. He should have a very good understanding of her capabilities and if he does not want to teach her how to defend herself etc. there is probably a very good reason for it.

Our exposure to Sarah is nowhere near enough to judge whether he is correct but there is no reason to question his judgement at all.

This is not like Lee not teaching Clem properly until Chuck points out that he should. Lee's inexperience as a father and sudden exposure to the ZA probably mean he simply hasn't thought it through properly. The fact that he quickly takes up Chucks advice supports this.

It is also not like Kenny not teaching Duck (or anyone else in his care). Duck is a fully functioning (if somewhat immature) child and could probably be taught the same things that Clem is being taught even if he is not as intelligent. Ducks immaturity is probably because of the way Kenny treats him, Sarahs immaturity is probably because of a mental condition.