Model 700

[Ghostface]

Has anyone found the Model 700 useful? I love bolt-action guns but it's a struggle to justify picking it.

The weapon's slow rate of fire means if you don't one-shot an enemy you're almost guaranteed to be detected, but the low damage means you don't consistently one-shot. A silenced Remington with slugs seems to do everything the Model 700 does but way better.

Does anyone use the Model 700 past the first few missions? I would love to hear if there's a way to make bolt-action sniping work in this game.

[Turbofreak]

A few caveats, given the developer seems to want to keep the weapons at least quasi-realistic in their function;

Subsonic .308 Win is a very, very ineffective round. Suppressing hypersonic .308 Win doesn't make it quiet, it just means that you can wear one layer of ear protection instead of two and is still incredibly loud.

Based on those two things, the ingame version seems to shine in scenarios where the sound actual helps you. There are a few maps/missions I won't spoil where you have access to really long kill zones and can make them one-way entrances. Locking yourself in at the end and firing off rounds with an unsuppressed 700 will lure in just about every enemy on the map, allowing you to peek around cover and drop everyone that walks into the hall.

There's nothing it does better than the 417 , but if there were no bolt actions in the game then people would probably be begging for one.

[Ghostface]

Thanks for the reply! I'll have to give it a go unsilenced.

[Kisama]

Make sure you are equipping match ammo. But either way no not really. As you said it's really fun but the HK417 pretty much always beats it out.

[Ghostface]

Just tried match + silencer on the AS-VAL mission and it's a great balance of the lethality and stealth. Thanks for the suggestion, Mr. Chavez.

[Kisama]

Just remember all caps when you spell the man’s name.

[Ste_leo]

Match ammo with suppressor is the best way to use it. Subsonic is useless. Don't expect to be taking out many enemies at once with this gun. Use it by shooting one or two enemies and then retreating to some other area to shoot again at the guys that will come to check out the noise.

[Kisama]

Originally posted by Ste_leo:

Match ammo with suppressor is the best way to use it. Subsonic is useless. Don't expect to be taking out many enemies at once with this gun. Use it by shooting one or two enemies and then retreating to some other area to shoot again at the guys that will come to check out the noise.

Subsonic is 100% not useless, but it is 100% situational. It's amazing on the quiet pistol to take out lights and windows. Just doesn't have enough stopping power on anything outside of easy to be worth using on enemies.

If you were really lazy you could use it on the VAL to kill enemies AND take lights out, but there would be no reason when you can just equip that pistol.

[Taberone]

on True difficulty the Model 700 can reliably one-shot most guards, due to the +50% DMG that goes both ways on True difficulty. It's not as fast-firing as the HK417, but the rate of fire is still fast enough that I occasionally use it as an HK417 alternative when going loud. I just have to be more careful and make every shot count.

[Stret]

Originally posted by Ding Chavez:

Originally posted by Ste_leo:

Match ammo with suppressor is the best way to use it. Subsonic is useless. Don't expect to be taking out many enemies at once with this gun. Use it by shooting one or two enemies and then retreating to some other area to shoot again at the guys that will come to check out the noise.

Subsonic is 100% not useless, but it is 100% situational. It's amazing on the quiet pistol to take out lights and windows. Just doesn't have enough stopping power on anything outside of easy to be worth using on enemies.

If you were really lazy you could use it on the VAL to kill enemies AND take lights out, but there would be no reason when you can just equip that pistol.

he was refering to subsonic specifically on the m700, in which case yeah its pretty useless