Something I think people are missing about Rogue Core

[Radial]

If you want Rogue Core to be a gamemode within DRG, you fundamentally want the game to be terrible.

Like many others, I think Rogue Core would be significantly worse game if it was just some DLC, or even a free game mode. And many others refuse to take the devs word on this. But I have reasons beyond what the devs have said. How? Because we KNOW what would happen! A VERY similar scenario has happened before!

Take Team Fortress 2's Mann VS Machine mode. It's a new game (co-op) in an game of a different genre (PvP) Because it was just a gamemode that HAD to play within the rules, existing balance and economy of main TF2, I think it turned out significantly worse than it could have been, falling well short of its potential. It couldn't add new weapons, couldn't make its own balance changes, couldn't add enemies using exclusive classes and weapons, couldnt add new CLASSES AT ALL.

While Valve treating it as nothing but gambling certainly didn't help, I think it suffered immensely from not being it's own game. And people want This fate for Rogue Core??? An awkward mess that would fall significantly short of its potential? That couldn't add new classes, new weapons, unique balance changes, all for fear of messing with the original game in a negative way.

It just makes it clear the people asking for this don't care to know what it would entail. They don't want to wait, they want new stuff NOW, regardless of quality. They want GSG to do nothing but DRG updates for another decade. If they could push for a season every month, they would.

TDLR: We have had this happen before, a game turning out significantly worse because it's just a game-mode, and it's INSANE to me that people want this exact fate for Rogue Core.

TLDR: We have proof that Rogue Core would be significantly worse as just some game mode, and its absurd and insane that people WANT a worse game!

[kirbybao]

Perhaps if it were a separate mode it would be worse BUT. Rogue Core has been heavily invested in Rogue Core, so season 5 had to wait a year (and possibly season 4) and Rogue Core itself was delayed for a year. Maybe if they had put more effort into DRG it would have been a better solution, DRG has had problems with updates lately, season 4 was clearly not the best and season 5 was lagging behind in terms of content. But at the same time the popularity of the game has only grown.

Originally posted by Radial:

They want GSG to do nothing but DRG updates for another decade.

These upgrades would have made DRG a great game. This may sound weird, but at this point it doesn't sound so bad. DRG has huge, I repeat HUGE potential but the developers have only developed it well at the time of release and the first 3 seasons. In Rogue Core they will add new enemies, new locations, new weapons, new missions, new abilities. This content would be enough for several more big seasons I would be very happy if that was the case but instead of one filled game we get one half-assed and one raw game and when they both get back to normal it will be another year or two.
This may sound weird, but at this point it doesn't sound so bad. DRG has huge, I repeat HUGE potential but the developers have only developed it well at the time of release and the first 3 seasons and then things got a little worse. In Rogue Core they will add new enemies, new locations, new weapons, new missions, new abilities. This content would be enough for several more big seasons I would be very happy if that was the case but instead of one filled game we get one half-assed and one raw game and when they both get back to normal it will be another year or two. For now, Rogue Core is a DRG, but in a slightly different way.
And unlike TF2 there is a good example of a separate mode, it's Chaos Waster from Vermintide 2. Yes it is often cited as an example and for good reason because it is a well made mode. In DRG it could have been realized as a separate lobby where there could be a different pumping system and in the game mode itself there could be special enemies, locations and abilities (just like in Vermintide 2) and you in this mode could get something that can be used in the main game mode. Yes there would obviously be a lot less content than in Rogue Core but still it might not be so bad. If it's a choice between quantity and quality where you have to wait a hell of a lot longer for quality, I'll go with quantity.
(I translated it, if anything, through a translator)

[GIRL]

All these walls of text don't need to exist. All that has to be said is that DRG's code was too old and difficult to work with. For Rogue Core, they wanted new ideas that couldn't work in DRG. So it had to be a new game. That's it.

Oh, and anyone who seriously expected Rogue Core to be a free update to DRG is just greedy and entitled and doesn't believe people should be rewarded for their hard work.

[Scuzz MB]

Originally posted by Femboy Thighs:

All these walls of text don't need to exist. All that has to be said is that DRG's code was too old and difficult to work with. For Rogue Core, they wanted new ideas that couldn't work in DRG. So it had to be a new game. That's it.

Oh, and anyone who seriously expected Rogue Core to be a free update to DRG is just greedy and entitled and doesn't believe people should be rewarded for their hard work.

I'm just wondering for a game that never cost more than $30.00 at peak, has given us 100% free content updates for 7 years basically doubling the content since launch - where does the money come from for this next decade of "Free Updates" The once per year $10.00 optional cosmetic?

I appreciate and love the fact that people are still discovering and loving DRG prime this far into it's life,but the game has pretty much saturated it's potential player base and this dev team has poured sweat and love into it for 7 years. They will CONTINUE to pour sweat and love into for a few years, but letting them work on something fresh and exciting in this universe in exchange for a slightly slower DRG update cycle should NOT be controversial.

It's obvious from everything we know about Rogue Core now that there's no way they could have done any justice to the new game if they had simply just tried to shoe horn it in as a new game type within the aging framework of DRG prime with no financial resources to do it.

[GIRL]

Originally posted by Scuzz MB:

I'm just wondering for a game that never cost more than $30.00 at peak, has given us 100% free content updates for 7 years basically doubling the content since launch - where does the money come from for this next decade of "Free Updates" The once per year $10.00 optional cosmetic?

Again - no such thing as a "free" update. If GSG wasn't getting income somehow, they'd have to charge for updates. Honestly I don't think DLCs cover all the costs, but they probably also get supplemental income from the Board Game and Survivor.

The point is, DLCs only come out every update. It's no coincidence that they come out at the same time.