What's the incentive?

[folko1]

Genuine question, why decide to make DRG:RC a separate game over making it as some sort of expansion?

I've saw a glimpes of someone saying DRG code is FUBAR and someone else saying a chance to redo some things, mostly speculation I believe.

So is there like an official statement bout it, or is it like just purely because DRG is done and just time to move on from it?

[zverozvero]

Originally posted by LordNapking:

Originally posted by zverozvero:

Through the magick of the druids. 1 moment. i'll perform some exorcism.

You're blowing my mind right now... teach me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PUCSyIkEus

[PMR]

Originally posted by McFuzz:

Because almost everyone who will own DRG already owns it, and the pool of people willing to buy dwarf horse armor is only so deep. DRG is self proclaimed paid expansion / DLC free, so, reversing that ethos now would be a way bigger slap in the face than making a spinoff / sequel.

You might think it shilling of them to cash in by getting fans to buy another game, but that's literally just how capitalism works. Gotta keep the line going up bby, I'll probably still get this if it's even half as good as DRG lol.

Financially, another game is a good business decision, and technically, they don't owe consumers anything just cuz they bought an 11 dollar game one time.

The thing is, they could just work on a few new cosmetic packs for DRG and presumably they would sell like hotcakes and easily finance the cost for a properly timed new season again, i mean even as it is you could just call this a drg expansion that may as well be a 20 dollar DLC instead of its own seperate game, you still get money for it that way and people in the drg owners camp get a massive content boost (assumedly, no gameplay seen).

[FulvousFox]

Originally posted by McFuzz:

Because almost everyone who will own DRG already owns it, and the pool of people willing to buy dwarf horse armor is only so deep. DRG is self proclaimed paid expansion / DLC free, so, reversing that ethos now would be a way bigger slap in the face than making a spinoff / sequel.

You might think it shilling of them to cash in by getting fans to buy another game, but that's literally just how capitalism works. Gotta keep the line going up bby, I'll probably still get this if it's even half as good as DRG lol.

Financially, another game is a good business decision, and technically, they don't owe consumers anything just cuz they bought an 11 dollar game one time.

I think its funny that some people can't grasp this.

If anything, DRG expanding into other games that are not only profitable, but create more incentive to care about the universe, also creates reason for the devs to continue the series and even get more hands on deck for future projects.

Ghost Ship is a small publisher/developer and has always expressed issues with having hands on deck, anyone ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and moaning about a new game without considering more money, more devs, more projects, more updates, more DRG, is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥' idiot lmao.

[McFuzz]

Originally posted by PMR:

Originally posted by McFuzz:

Because almost everyone who will own DRG already owns it, and the pool of people willing to buy dwarf horse armor is only so deep. DRG is self proclaimed paid expansion / DLC free, so, reversing that ethos now would be a way bigger slap in the face than making a spinoff / sequel.

You might think it shilling of them to cash in by getting fans to buy another game, but that's literally just how capitalism works. Gotta keep the line going up bby, I'll probably still get this if it's even half as good as DRG lol.

Financially, another game is a good business decision, and technically, they don't owe consumers anything just cuz they bought an 11 dollar game one time.

The thing is, they could just work on a few new cosmetic packs for DRG and presumably they would sell like hotcakes and easily finance the cost for a properly timed new season again, i mean even as it is you could just call this a drg expansion that may as well be a 20 dollar DLC instead of its own seperate game, you still get money for it that way and people in the drg owners camp get a massive content boost (assumedly, no gameplay seen).

I obviously don't work in the GSG finance department, so this is purely speculative of course, but I highly doubt sales from a new game all the fans want would be comparable to sales from horse armor only the whales want.

I, personally, have never bought DRG horse armor. I have, however, bought the game for 3 of my friends.

Releasing a DLC that's fundamentally a different gameplay mode is odd, I hope everyone's aware of that. People calling for this totally different genre'd game to be part of the main game are making a strange argument that is not backed up by normal industry practices.

What do you really gain from needing to open Deep Rock in order to get to this game?

[Gimli]

We work, to earn the right to work; to earn the right to work; to earn the right to work...

[mhenryblack]

I would but DRG2 in a SECOND, but I am not sure about the rogue structure....

[folko1]

Originally posted by mhenryblack:

I would but DRG2 in a SECOND, but I am not sure about the rogue structure....

Yeah that kinda puts me off a bit as well.
I prefer games where I can steadily build my progress and go for a specific build I'm comfortable with.
They say DRG:RC will have the option to eventually permanently unlock things, but at that point, why even have it be a roguelike?

Eh, guess we'll wait and see.

[McFuzz]

Originally posted by folko1:

Originally posted by mhenryblack:

I would but DRG2 in a SECOND, but I am not sure about the rogue structure....

Yeah that kinda puts me off a bit as well.

Eh, guess we'll wait and see.

Agreed. That's the real kicker here.

I've had a grudge against roguelikes having 'rogue' in their name for the better part of a decade. I just think it's tacky and unoriginal, though it does remove all guesswork about what genre it is lol.

Originally posted by folko1:

I prefer games where I can steadily build my progress and go for a specific build I'm comfortable with.

They say DRG:RC will have the option to eventually permanently unlock things, but at that point, why even have it be a roguelike?

It's pretty typical for roguelikes to have meta progression. Weapon unlocks, a meta levelling system, new card/item drops entered into the pool, new characters and what-have-you. Roguelikes without meta progression are typically less popular, or paraded as "a hard roguelike", because removing scaling avatar strength means the player has to rely on skill alone.

Even though the concept of meta progression is literally just taking out content and drip-feeding it back to the player, but that's a gamer-psychology discussion for another time lol.

[Vault Traveler]

Main reason is probably the spaghetti code

[MagiusNecros]

I think Rogue Core is just going to be Roguelike Deep Dives essentially. What I like about it at a glance is it expands on DRG lore with the Reclaimers. Base DRG seems like it focuses around the fictitious companies Mining Operations and the Reclaimers seem more like a special unit tackles even worse things then the Mining Dwarves do. Makes you wonder if the Reclaimers will fight Glyphid Queens or enemy types that make Dreadnoughts look like a cakewalk.

[ULTRA]

Considering the number of years the developers pretended it was technically impossible to add cosmetic loadouts to the main game, I'd easily believe someone saying the code base is wrecked

[Cor.]

Originally posted by ULTRA:

Considering the number of years the developers pretended it was technically impossible to add cosmetic loadouts to the main game, I'd easily believe someone saying the code base is wrecked

Hence the new game to give more depth they just cant do with DRG

[St0rmFury]

Adding more new stuff to DRG is akin to adding more floors to an already wobbling house of cards. At this point, it's better to start from scratch if GSG is going to make a new DRG game.

[Dwarfurious]

I think we should all take a second to appreciate that one of the biggest incentives is that the CEO of GSG just really loves these types of games; because their CEO is a gamer, hes making what he loves because thats something successful gaming companies should be able to do

[folko1]

Originally posted by Dwarfurious:

I think we should all take a second to appreciate that one of the biggest incentives is that the CEO of GSG just really loves these types of games; because their CEO is a gamer, hes making what he loves because thats something successful gaming companies should be able to do

Yeah no I just generally was wondering why a new game over a DLC or something, but that's already been answered so yea.