chapter 4 finishing

[mwmiles60]

St edmonds hall will not complete. Walkthrough says to do magic trick with any of the students when out in the yard. There was no prompt nor reason to do a magic trick at the time and now the opportunity seems to be lost. Half way through the game and it can't be finished because the students are not longer assembled, have gone their way and the magic trick can't be done. Who makes games to do this?

[󠁳Bakhtosh]

I don't know. At least not the developers of Gray Matter... ;)

The thing is... Within a chapter Gray Matter is very non-linear. While walkthroughs are very linear. That isn't a problem if you play the game from the beginning until the end of a chapter using a walkthrough. But if you only start using a walkthrough after you got stuck looking for the situation that seems to match your own, it often happens that in the walkthrough things has been done that you haven't done so far. And suddenly the instructions of the walkthrough don't work anymore a few steos further for that reason.

But Gray Matter has two helpful hint systems.
1. task dependend progress indicators
2. map name color code that tell you where are still things to be done

1. Open the progress screen with the 'P' key. Have a look at all tasks to find out which tasks are still missing points (tasks where still things have to be done). Note down all points for the not completed tasks and post them here. From the missing points we can guess which things still have to be done. And maybe you get an idea on your own.

2. Open the map. Look at the colors of the location names. Name in golden letters means that something has to be done here to finish the chapter. Name in silver letters means that only something for the bonus task is left to be done here. Name in gray letters means that everything has been done here that can be done in this chapter. Please post all location names displayed with golden letters. In combination with the missing points we probably can make a good guess what's still left to be done in this chapter.

[mwmiles60]

Thank you ror the quick response. All above advice has been looked at before my post. Only one thing to do yet to get to Chapter 5 and thet is to do the magic trick with the students. Suppose I will have to start at the point where they were gathered if I can find that place. Otherwise I will have to begin Chapter 4 all over. Sigh....

[bunny de fluff]

If I remember it correctly they usually gathered outside the yard if they are not there then they could be in their dorm room ?

[󠁳Bakhtosh]

Originally posted by mwmiles60:

Thank you ror the quick response. All above advice has been looked at before my post.

I haven't made any suggestions yet...

I asked for some info the game offers in each situation. Using this info I can probably make a good suggestion what's left to do. And I explained why using a walkthrough with Gray Matter often leads to the impression that everything necessary has been done while that is not the case.

So please post the points (not the percentage) from the progress screen ('P' key) for all tasks that are not shown as completed (100%). And post all locations names from the map that are displayed in golden letters.

I have a list with the amount of points you get for the different actions for each chapter and each task. So from the amount of missing points and the location info I can make a good suggestion what's probably left to be done.

[moway1114]

I am hoping this is the right thread, I am really stuck.I have 100% and all locations are gray.The cut scene where they all speak to one another , where she is defending the Dr. played and the game will not advance. I have not followed a walk through but had check one because I am beffudled. I thought I hade completed the chapter and suspected I missed something.The walkthrough says that I should be complete and now playing as the Dr. I really enjoy this game and would appreciate any suggestions you may have so that I can continue playing.

[mwmiles60]

I started this post last May. I eventually decided to back to the beginning of the chapter and began again. Eventually I lost interest and have played several games since. I may get back to this another time.

[󠁳Bakhtosh]

Originally posted by moway1114:

I am hoping this is the right thread, I am really stuck.I have 100% and all locations are gray.The cut scene where they all speak to one another , where she is defending the Dr. played and the game will not advance.

Is it possible that you got the last points in a closeup view and that you left the closeup view using the map?

If so, than you encountered a known bug.

If you get some points in a closeup view that are connected to some automatic actions relying on progress, then these actions are played if you leave the closeup view (probably for technical reasons). If you left the closeup view using the map after these actions the location you selected at the map is loaded.

The problem is, if you collected the last points of a chapter in a closeup view and left this closeup view using the map, than the transition actions/cutscenes for the next chapter are played. But then the location of the chapter you've just finished is loaded. And since you've already collected all points there is no way to end that chapter again and get to the next chapter. You're stuck.

The only solution is to load an older savegame and end this chapter again.

And remember the following important rules for Gray Matter:
- never use the map in a closeup view
- never create a savegame in a closeup view (you can't open the ingame menu using ESC in a closeup ciew, but you can open the ingame menu using the icon in the inventory if you are in a closeup view)
- ALWAYS leave a closeup view using the exit button

If you don't have a savegame near the end of chapter 4, I can provide one. Just ask. ;)

[Madam Fussy Britches]

I was in this situation too. The one thing missing -- which was preventing me from completing the "talk to Dr. Styles about everything" requirement was that I needed to talk to the pool guy TWICE. You could be missing something like that. Make sure to keep clicking on people and hotspots (but specifically people) multiple times until Sam's reaction dialogue starts repeating itself. After any significant action, try talking to the surrounding people again until the mouth icon goes away.

Also, this website provides saved games, but it is pretty old, so I can't guarantee they will work on the steam version. https://mysterymanor.net/atticsavesg.htm