Poker blinds

[slampie]

There already has been some talking about the poker blinds but i haven't really seen any answers on the subject.

I was just wondering are there any plans for lowering the Poker blinds in the near future?

Right now it's just insane, You play a poker game and all the time you spend trying to play poker to get that first place just goes to waste when the blinds get up to 64k.

Example : Just played a poker game where i managed to trow out 4 people and had around 250k chips vs 50k. But since the blinds are so high at the end of a game my opponent won 6 hands in a row without me ever betting a single chip and won.

Now i know that luck plays a big part in poker, But completely removing the ability to actually play poker becouse the blinds are so high is a bit to much for me.

Right now if you play a good poker game and make it to heads up it's just a coin flip, all in every hand couse you simply dont have a choice, This is getting a bit frustrating and i know alot of players that would agree with me on this,

I would really like to get some answers on if or when this is going to be changed

[76561198088183771]

Yes, we've heard the feedback on the blinds and we've been discussing it internally. We don't have an answer for if or when at the moment.

[Kormega]

I's recommend fixing the galring bugs first before any settings issues. I agree the blinds are redick, and I'm not sure what Adam's on about, "don't have an answer"? Just lower them?
But most importantly, the poker game is riddled with bugs. Last night playing a game, I knocked 3 fools out after All-In hands, everytime, the loser would seem to leave the game whilst the hand is still being shown then the chips would be distributed to EVERY PLAYER at the table??? WTF? Now, I have zero desire to even play knowing this will happen.

[Mel]

Yep we 'early access' folks warned them that this was going to be a huge issue. It was even awful then when we had unlimited free chips, I can't even imagine doing it now that you have to pay money for them.

[76561198088183771]

We sat down for a design meeting yesterday about the poker blinds, and we're going to lengthen the time that the blinds raise at.

[PlasticIcon]

Are their poker players in your staff? Normal stacks are considered to be 80-100 big blinds. No one in a tournament expects that to last, but it would be nice not to have a short stack immediately on sitting in.

Appreciate you working on the issue.

[slampie]

Longer time on the blind raises would deffinitly help but lower the last blinds to atleast 32k the 64k is just to high. 32k would be more then enough to ensure tables are not being used by 2 players for to long couse that's what it's all about right ? 32k would still be enough to end these games fast but would leave a bit more room for us to play actuall poker and not just the ALL IN every hand and see who get's lucky game

[76561198088183771]

We definitely appreciate the feedback on this matter. Going forward, we have to make these balance changes one step at a time or else we're possibly going to end up with a number of issues like unbalanced RP output, or people having to wait too long to join a game. Our main concern is poker games taking too long to finish. So lets take this step first and see where it goes.

[radio_babylon]

a 6-seat sng SHOULD take a while to finish. the bottom line is, you cannot have both a quality poker experience, and a lightning-fast game. period. theyre mutually exclusive.

but hey... the sake of probably-definitely-going-to-happen-so-why-bother-♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥-about-it: lets just say you decide never to make the SNGs a decent experience, and keep them as the very worst example of WHEEL! OF! POKER! i have ever seen... there is still an easy way fix the overall poker experience:

RING. GAMES.

add 6-handed ring games. thats it. thats all you have to do. award RP on a per-pot basis. let people get up and sit down as they wish, like the other house games. ideally, create separate selectable poker instances, one for WHEEL! OF! POKER!, and additional ones for different levels of ring games. put the high-limit games in VIP, and make them uncapped buy... THEN youd get some good games going.

[76561198088183771]

Yes we will eventually be adding ring games.

[radio_babylon]

lemme know when that happens and ill come back to the game

[PlasticIcon]

Originally posted by radio_babylon:

a 6-seat sng SHOULD take a while to finish. the bottom line is, you cannot have both a quality poker experience, and a lightning-fast game. period. theyre mutually exclusive.

but hey... the sake of probably-definitely-going-to-happen-so-why-bother-♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥-about-it: lets just say you decide never to make the SNGs a decent experience, and keep them as the very worst example of WHEEL! OF! POKER! i have ever seen... there is still an easy way fix the overall poker experience:

RING. GAMES.

add 6-handed ring games. thats it. thats all you have to do. award RP on a per-pot basis. let people get up and sit down as they wish, like the other house games. ideally, create separate selectable poker instances, one for WHEEL! OF! POKER!, and additional ones for different levels of ring games. put the high-limit games in VIP, and make them uncapped buy... THEN youd get some good games going.

This.

[dakin1]

Originally posted by radio_babylon:

a 6-seat sng SHOULD take a while to finish. the bottom line is, you cannot have both a quality poker experience, and a lightning-fast game. period. theyre mutually exclusive.

but hey... the sake of probably-definitely-going-to-happen-so-why-bother-♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥-about-it: lets just say you decide never to make the SNGs a decent experience, and keep them as the very worst example of WHEEL! OF! POKER! i have ever seen... there is still an easy way fix the overall poker experience:

RING. GAMES.

add 6-handed ring games. thats it. thats all you have to do. award RP on a per-pot basis. let people get up and sit down as they wish, like the other house games. ideally, create separate selectable poker instances, one for WHEEL! OF! POKER!, and additional ones for different levels of ring games. put the high-limit games in VIP, and make them uncapped buy... THEN youd get some good games going.

Yes--I would suggest a 25-50 ring game--that way a 5000 chip buy in would be 100 big blinds and people could rebuy or leave whenever they want.

Also, would it be possible to look at increasing the table size to 8 or 9 seats (I believe 9 is standard for a no limit ring game in most poker rooms), and leave the SNG tourney tables at 6 seats? This would create more seats for players who wish to play and maybe not have as much of a problem of people waiting for a spot to open up.

[dakin1]

Thank you for making the time it takes for the blinds to increase longer in the latest patch. I played a tournament tonight and when I got heads up (with both of us at 130-170k stacks) the blinds were still 8k-16k and we were actually able to play poker against each other (it took about 15 hands until I won the tournament and the blinds were still 16k-32k). I would still like to see the blinds capped at 16-32k, but this was a very nice improvement to the poker structure--great job!