Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines

Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines

Instigator Apr 10, 2016 @ 8:58pm
Rolled Nosferatu for my first time through
Did the little "generate your character by answering these questions" and it rolled a nosferatu. I've made it through the santa monico stuff and am just back to Downtown. So far, it's not terrible, but I do feel like I'm missing out on part of the game by having to always take the sewers everywhere and stay extremely hidden.

Should I reroll or is the game just as enjoyable as a sewer rat?
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Magic Tofu Cat Apr 10, 2016 @ 9:05pm 
hey on the plus side you get 2 blood from rats..
Instigator Apr 10, 2016 @ 9:08pm 
Originally posted by アイス Daemon 凸(¬‿¬)凸:
hey on the plus side you get 2 blood from rats..

I've defnitely been making use of that. And getting to do the entire "blow up the warehouse" mission without ever killing anyone was fun, but I'm just wondering if I'll be able to make it through the entire game like this.
Magic Tofu Cat Apr 10, 2016 @ 9:29pm 
if you playing orginal do not patch til you finish your palythough otherwise youll corrupt your svegame
Bloodartist Apr 11, 2016 @ 2:54am 
The game is technically just as enjoyable, but it can be bit harder than with other clans, due to your difficulties with social interaction.

Another clan that I would suggest to avoid on first playthrough is Malkavian, since they get unique insight on events and persons in the game which sort of spoils certain stuff that is cooler to find out on your own. (imo) Malks are however superfun so definitely give it a go at some point ;)

I know I also had a glitch with my game (related to one of your ally NPCs) that only affected nosferatu due to their different travel route from everyone else.

But if you are having fun, just keep going!

ps. Regarding unofficial patches and mods : if you install any of those, you must start a new game. Continuing an older savegame after installing a mod/UO patch midway, results in a corrupted save and problems.

pps. beginner hint: don't forgo your combat completely when leveling up. It also helps if you choose either melee or ranged and concentrate on it. The game has certain bossfights that are unavoidable, and you may find yourself in trouble if you create a "Ill talk my way through it all" character. You dont have to go overboard, just dont ignore combat altogether. Stealth also doesnt help in those bossfights unfortunately.

Majority of the missions have multiple ways to complete however and talking/sneaking etc help with those.
Last edited by Bloodartist; Apr 11, 2016 @ 3:01am
Benjafins Apr 11, 2016 @ 7:28am 
Originally posted by Bloodartist:
The game is technically just as enjoyable, but it can be bit harder than with other clans, due to your difficulties with social interaction.

Another clan that I would suggest to avoid on first playthrough is Malkavian, since they get unique insight on events and persons in the game which sort of spoils certain stuff that is cooler to find out on your own. (imo) Malks are however superfun so definitely give it a go at some point ;)

I know I also had a glitch with my game (related to one of your ally NPCs) that only affected nosferatu due to their different travel route from everyone else.

But if you are having fun, just keep going!

ps. Regarding unofficial patches and mods : if you install any of those, you must start a new game. Continuing an older savegame after installing a mod/UO patch midway, results in a corrupted save and problems.

pps. beginner hint: don't forgo your combat completely when leveling up. It also helps if you choose either melee or ranged and concentrate on it. The game has certain bossfights that are unavoidable, and you may find yourself in trouble if you create a "Ill talk my way through it all" character. You dont have to go overboard, just dont ignore combat altogether. Stealth also doesnt help in those bossfights unfortunately.

Majority of the missions have multiple ways to complete however and talking/sneaking etc help with those.

You absolutely need combat in this game to get anywhere. You can talk your way through a lot of the early stuff, but once you get to Chinatown, you need a strong fighting character. It's what is kind of disappointing in this game, I turns into an action RPG about 2/3rds of the way in and dialogue and character interaction amounts to "Fight me bro!" for the last 1/3.
Wesp5 Apr 11, 2016 @ 10:19am 
Originally posted by BooCycRoCs:
I turns into an action RPG about 2/3rds of the way in and dialogue and character interaction amounts to "Fight me bro!" for the last 1/3.

While this is true for the most part, I think in the final confrontations betwen the factions it would
make no sense to just persuade an enemy to give up! This was ridicullous e.g. in F:NV...
Bloodartist Apr 11, 2016 @ 11:44am 
Originally posted by wesp5:

While this is true for the most part, I think in the final confrontations betwen the factions it would
make no sense to just persuade an enemy to give up! This was ridicullous e.g. in F:NV...

Note that OT was talking about possibility of stealthing his way thru it all. ;) Thats also a valid option for most missions, just not the critical parts and boss fights. Admittedly, stealth does avoid a lot of the combat in the game.
Last edited by Bloodartist; Apr 11, 2016 @ 11:45am
Instigator Apr 11, 2016 @ 1:52pm 
Okay, so just how hard will I find Nosferatu in the later game? Is the early game any representation of the actual difficulty or am is it only going to get significantly more difficult? I already had a good bit of trouble fighting the blood guardian/demon thing, and I ended up having to kite it around the room every time I took a few swings just to get my health back up.

Also, thank you for all the friendly advice!
Last edited by Instigator; Apr 11, 2016 @ 1:52pm
Touch of Oblivion Apr 11, 2016 @ 5:46pm 
Originally posted by Instigator:
Okay, so just how hard will I find Nosferatu in the later game? Is the early game any representation of the actual difficulty or am is it only going to get significantly more difficult? I already had a good bit of trouble fighting the blood guardian/demon thing, and I ended up having to kite it around the room every time I took a few swings just to get my health back up.

Also, thank you for all the friendly advice!
Nosferatu are essentially the game's "hard mode" due to having to sewer it around and the fact you do miss out on some side quests due to your severe case of fugly. This means you're down some XP compared to the other Clans later in the game. And sure maybe missing out on 1 or 3 XP here and there isn't so bad, but later in the game "Oh I only missed out on a few XP" turned into "So..I'm missing 20XP compared to what another PC would have. Damn."
DO NOT REDEEM IT Apr 12, 2016 @ 8:27pm 
hard to say, i mean you're kinda far in the game if you're downtown, so it might be a hassle doing all the santa monica stuff again, but im not a fan of missing out on quests and not being able to run around freely
Bloodartist Apr 13, 2016 @ 2:19pm 
In reality, Nossies aren't THAT much more difficult than any other clan. In fact, their obfuscate can be pretty good for the most part of the game.

The real challenge comes at end when you have to face the big bosses nearer the end chapters of the game. In those fights its less about your clan and more about how you have built your character for combat, although some disciplines are better than others. Note: depending on your choices of allegiance, you may be able to avoid some of the bossfights.

Also quick hint: you are not supposed to fight the werewolf xD (just run). The werewolf is unkillable by combat. Not wholly unkillable, but thats another secret lol.
Last edited by Bloodartist; Apr 13, 2016 @ 2:20pm
Originally posted by Bloodartist:
In reality, Nossies aren't THAT much more difficult than any other clan. In fact, their obfuscate can be pretty good for the most part of the game.

The real challenge comes at end when you have to face the big bosses nearer the end chapters of the game. In those fights its less about your clan and more about how you have built your character for combat, although some disciplines are better than others. Note: depending on your choices of allegiance, you may be able to avoid some of the bossfights.

Also quick hint: you are not supposed to fight the werewolf xD (just run). The werewolf is unkillable by combat. Not wholly unkillable, but thats another secret lol.

I couldn't have said it better.

The Nosferatu clan really isn't that hard to play as and I'm sort of upset I didn't get to try them sooner. Even when it comes to hiding from humans: you're given an indicator as to how close you can get to a human NPC.
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