Install Steam
login
|
language
简体中文 (Simplified Chinese)
繁體中文 (Traditional Chinese)
日本語 (Japanese)
한국어 (Korean)
ไทย (Thai)
Български (Bulgarian)
Čeština (Czech)
Dansk (Danish)
Deutsch (German)
Español - España (Spanish - Spain)
Español - Latinoamérica (Spanish - Latin America)
Ελληνικά (Greek)
Français (French)
Italiano (Italian)
Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian)
Magyar (Hungarian)
Nederlands (Dutch)
Norsk (Norwegian)
Polski (Polish)
Português (Portuguese - Portugal)
Português - Brasil (Portuguese - Brazil)
Română (Romanian)
Русский (Russian)
Suomi (Finnish)
Svenska (Swedish)
Türkçe (Turkish)
Tiếng Việt (Vietnamese)
Українська (Ukrainian)
Report a translation problem
Discussions Rules and Guidelines
Report this post
The whole VV questline can be really buggy, but this part in particular.
She DID say no guns, so no, you can't use guns and still pass that part of the requirement.
But what she doesn't tell you is that disciplines (at least some of them) are apparently super loud and you can't use those too.
You can basically beef up on bloodbuff, take blood packs with you, and melee her that way.
Presence and celerity shouldn't interfere with "loud" requirement so idk...
Also, lure the other prostitute in the other room and *feed on her* - you need her unconscious, not just out of the way.
You should be able to beat her with just bloodbuff though, she's not that tough.
Also, not sure if seduction 6 is enough, i think you have more options at 8.
That's my take on it.
I did manage to get her photo and her thirsty email, but idk what i did.
I'm not sure i even played a toreador that time.
And i will feed on the other prostitute aswell. Gonna need blood anyways cause i need the bloodbuff to break into the office, changing room and the machine anyways. And i will do some other quests befor that aswell and boost seduction a little more. It was literaly the first questline i went after after i spoke with Isaac so there is plenty more to do in Hollywood and i wanna get to 8 seduction at some point, anyways. I mean if you play Toreador you gotta own it. ;-)
Thanks for the help! I was really devided on doing a 2 hourish roleback (i guess i am faster the second time around, though) just on the basis of speculation. The wiki also says nothing about the silent-requirement.
I think, any discipline that DOESN'T break the masquerade is considered silent, and the ones that do aren't. So using celerity past level 1 is also not good.
And yeah, try to get seduction to 8, that will if nothing else get you the last blood doll in chinatown, that one requires 8 or 9 i think. So you know, a bit extra. :) And yea, you have to own it! :D
The "silent" requirement is implied through conversation, i mean, Larry or whatever his name is, is just upstairs, so naturally if you shoot guns at her, they're loud, makes sense.
Whereas he might not hear you beating her to death with a rake and her constant screaming. /sarcasm :D
But hey, he's a porn guy, he might just mistake it for moaning. :P
(plus, loud music, whatever)
But yeah, VV warns you about using disciplines in front of a hunter, and idk if she mentions guns, but she implies she wants no witnesses, Larry is a witness if you use guns. And so is half the neighborhood for that matter.
Yeah it sure makes sense but then you can usuallycowboy your way through lots of things and get away. Hell you can even fire a gun in an ally branching into the mainstreet and noone cares as long as noone sees you do it. So the internal game logic doesnt factor in gunnoise so it is a bit weird that this quest suddenly does.
Blood dolls. - just checked that. Now since i am a Toreador i wanna get them all. Nothing is allowed to escape my seductionskills! But now i am wondering if i get anything for earning them all (didnt see any mention of this on the wiki). Cause some i skipped (i mean i can come back for them ofc) like Heather (i feel bad for sucking on my own ghoul; i' d rather have her do "ghoulwork" and not be a simple bloodstorage) and all the male ones.
But still, according to game logic, there IS someone there to see you, the hunter herself. ;)
But this is where our imaginations and suspension of disbelief comes in, and it's an old alpha version of an engine, and they probably didn't have time to think about everything.
Plus, coding some new game logic just for thst encounter would be pointless.
As for the disciplines, yeah it's worked weird, nut since you're there to kill her anyway, who cares if she knows you're a vampire or not.
She already suspects VV and others, who cares if you prove her right before you kill her.
So if that's not it, I csn only assume some disciplines are loud enough for people to notice idk... Game logic again.
In any case, now you should be able to finish that quest fully and get the photo.
Don't forget to drink from the other prostitute and yeah having blood dolls is kinda neat. :)
Comes in handy for safe feeding between missions. No need to hunt on the streets. You can't break the masquerade by feeding on blood dolls.
Via dialogue of course, if you attack them, in areas where you can, it will count as a felony.
They're useless beyond that so... Up to you.
I always seduce them all if nothing else then because I can. If I'm playing seduction, I'm getting all the benefits of it whether I need them or not lol.
Good luck!
I nipped on the stripper after i sent her to the private room and then clawed up Chastity good (i have 1 in brawl thanks to Nines so i figured i gonna put that to use). With bloodbuff and presence (lvl2) it was supereasy aswell. Almost as easy as the previous times when i fanned her down with the .44 Magnum (god, i love that weapon). Only downside was that it took Heather over an hour to do my pedicure... I' ll stick to guns from now on. They are much easier on my sensitive skin aswell. (unless i cant for some reason; talked the gargoyle into submission already, which would be the second thing you cant gun down).
Some notes on what i recognized beside of what i already said:
- I pushed Seduction to lvl 8 before even starting VVs questline just to be sure but didnt get any extra dialouge. Also all the seduction-dialouge is before quest one. There is no more of it afterwards (unless you need to be even higher in seduction, which i dont think because the first time around i only had seduction 5 when i talked to her and i had all the lines available i had this time at 8 and i dont think it jumps from requ.5 to requ.9 in one quest). So seduction 5 is apparently enough to get this going.*
- VV does not say you cant shot her up. She does warn you about disciplines and she tells you to be quiet, which in the real world would obviously mean not do this cowboystyle but in the games logic its not really clear you cant do it like that (i mean you can offload a full magazine of the machine-pistol in an ally and noone cares unless you are seen even if a cop stands right around the corner; also there is a massive shootout going down on the cemetery EVERY NIGHT but noone ever got wind of that, etc.; i guess Fynn is the only NPC in the game that is not deaf ^^). But you truly cannot. I can vow for that.
As it turns out: If you do it right its working... an experience i' ve been making a lot lately. I think i am on to something... Thanks again for your help!
*Seduction seems a bit on the pricy side. I get that its superuseful to have blood dolls around, especially when playing as a Ventrue but Seduction is, as far as i saw the only trait that is boosted by 2 skills that ONLY boost seduction, with appearance being one of the most expensieve ones aswell. Also i am not aware of any research-material to push it (would also be strange to get better appearance from reading a book ^^) So its supercostly pushing seduction. Probably wont go for that again unless i am doing Ventrue (i mean putting in a couple points is fine; after all you can always feed on the easy dolls inbetween missions; thats already going a long way but putting in so many points just to get the higher ones.. idk. Doesnt seem to be worth it, to be honest (speaking as someone who played for like 30 hours total)
Nice! Congratz! :)
Seduction being like that is i think by design.
There's not a lot of overlap between acting like a horny person all the time to get someone's attention and juices flowing so they do stuff for you and carefully choosing your words so that someone wants to do things for you like persuasion does.
So by choosing seduction, you're intentionally forgoing certain skills.
The only thing that doesn't really add up is how much you have to spend on it, i mean, once you learn to be a "sultry mistress" or whatever, where do you go from there? Like, what is the actual skill in this lol?
But whatever, intimidate is a skill in this game cause you have to learn to threaten violence on people so yeah...
But don't worry, as long as you max out your guns, it SO doesn't matter if you min/max anything, guns, presence and some celerity is enough to finish every combat encounter in this game, including bosses. Playing toreador is so broken at times, so i guess it makes sense to make seduction more expensive, idk...
Anyway, have fun playing the rest of the game! :) It's really one of a kind!
Yeah it truly is. Especially its humor and i guess Malkavian is quite the unique experience. However, if you like great characters, a dark melancholic world and vampire-combat i would totally suggest Vampyr. You know that? I am pretty sure lots of ppl enjoying this game would also enjoy Vampyr. Its not the same by any means. Its just another really good Vampire-RPG that emphazises characters, story (even though the story sadly goes a bit down the toilett towards the end) and just hardship in a post-war-world and also the hardship of being a vampire. If you are on board with that i totally recommend you check out Vampyr, if you havent already.
They all function differently.
As for appeareance, i mean, there's chothing, makeup, how you carry yourself, all those things can be modified. Even if your vampiric body won't change, you'll definitely appear different.
There's also some basic vampiric abilities that will for instance make you appear more human (blush of life), that can contribute to appeareance, and they don't cost a thing i believe.
And i don't know if fat people blood makes vampires fat hahahahha, probably not. :P
There is logic in subterfuge being separate, it's just a tad bit too expensive.
But then, what's the price of roleplay? ;)
I did play Vampyr and i enjoyed it up until i failed an out of nowhere quick time event/pop quiz and then the whole district turned to a hell hole because of my action.
How and why that tiny bluder managed to destroy a whole part of the city is beyond me, but that's the point where i kinda stopped caring...
It was a bit too much, and i felt like i messed up.
Idk. I played it at a friends house, and he didn't like it either, idk.
Maybe a fresh try when i get a computer that can run it. :P
I did enjoy the worldbuilding and characters though, and combat was also not bad.
It's just that this mechanic where if you didn't wipe someone's behind properly results in half the people dying is kinda stupid and borderline disruptive.
But i guess that's how the game is, oh well...
I legitimately dont know what quicktime-event you talk about, though. Cant recal a single quicktime-event in this game, let alone one that decides the faith of an entire district. I guess that was due to your choices that varied from mine. Vampyr immediatly drew me in and amazed me for about the first 3rd of the game. Then it got a little repetitive and also the story goes into a direction that i didnt like. But it would still be considered a good story for 99% of games. Its just not up to par with the brilliant start. thinking of it i have no idea what i would even compare the first 3rd with to be honest. Its ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ amazing. ^^
Or does it happen regardless?
Yes, That's right. You get a few lines before the conflict, especially with Seduction, but more comes afterwards.