Explosive beginning warehouse with unofficial patch

[tremeremaster]

I am not sure if this is stated somewhere but i can't seem to get the bonus XP for not killing anyone at the warehouse. I am not sure if this is possible anymore as the youtube clips i've seen show that sneaking to be much easier and even with some points into sneaking i can't get to the office without the sneaking counter to go 100% (though this is with enemies behind walls etc.).

I DO get 2 XP for planting the explosive undetected right after i plant it. So i am not sure if this was changed from vanilla or some previous version of the unofficial patch from the bonus for not killing anyone?

Regardless LeCroix says in the next part that the ship can't become a massacre like the warehouse even though i did not kill anyone.

[Vepar]

I don't remember not killing anyone rewarding extra XP in the warehouse mission, plus, you basically have to kill to escape cause Sabbat comes after you.

LaCroix says that the ship can't become a massacre regardless of what you do in the warehouse because he's pointing out that you can't kill a ship full of cops like you can a warehouse full of thugs and sabbat.

The ship mission rewards extra XP if you don't get detected, plus, some bonus favor from LaCroix if you're into that sort of thing. He gives you nice cash later if you're nice to him and have a high persuasion stat though, plus, the appartment, so it pays off not to make him mad.

Don't get too chummy with him thoguh. ;)

[l'homme rouge]

Originally posted by Vepar:

I don't remember not killing anyone rewarding extra XP in the warehouse mission, plus, you basically have to kill to escape cause Sabbat comes after you.

LaCroix says that the ship can't become a massacre regardless of what you do in the warehouse because he's pointing out that you can't kill a ship full of cops like you can a warehouse full of thugs and sabbat.

The ship mission rewards extra XP if you don't get detected, plus, some bonus favor from LaCroix if you're into that sort of thing. He gives you nice cash later if you're nice to him and have a high persuasion stat though, plus, the appartment, so it pays off not to make him mad.

Don't get too chummy with him thoguh. ;)

i may be wrong but i remember if you dont kill anyone in warehouse you get extra xp and lacroix dont mention massacre.

[tremeremaster]

Like i said i don't know if that is possible with the current UP. Here's a link to an old YT vid that at the end gives 2 XP for "Planted AStrolite without killing anyone" (around 7:52 mark). They don't get 2 XP for planting the bomb undetected (around 4:50 mark) as i did during my run.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-WuWhmOFOM

It is possible to not need to fight anyone with this route even now as i did basicly the same route, though the train car door that gets blown up at the end is does NOT open so you need to lockpick it before you plant the bomb from the other side. (It is also faster way than what is shown in the video).

If anyone knows a clip where LaCroix's dialogue changes i'd like to see it as i didn't know even way back when i first played this game that the dialogue could change.

[Wesp5]

This is different between basic and plus patch. In basic you will get the bonus for not killing anyone, but in my opinion this makes no sense and I changed it to get in undetected. After all Bertram says: So if you get in there and have to bust a few heads... don't feel bad. Think of it as "upholding the Masquerade". This is the opposite of what LaCroix asks of you on the Dane!

[tremeremaster]

So is there a dialogue change when you report back to LaCroix after blowing up the warehouse without "personally" killing anyone in vanilla version? I get the change makes more sense, at this point i'm just curious.

[Wesp5]

Originally posted by tremeremaster:

So is there a dialogue change when you report back to LaCroix after blowing up the warehouse without "personally" killing anyone in vanilla version?

None at all, which made this switch of priorities easy :).

[tremeremaster]

Originally posted by wesp5:

Originally posted by tremeremaster:

So is there a dialogue change when you report back to LaCroix after blowing up the warehouse without "personally" killing anyone in vanilla version?

None at all, which made this switch of priorities easy :).

Ah alright then, thanks for the information! :)

[ArcticStan]

He says massacre because you blew the damn warehouse, and you know some people died actually because of that.