Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines

Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines

Buffy the Vampire slayer in the World of Darkness: A thought experiment
Let's say, for sake of the experiment, the World of Darkness was a sentient entity, let us also say the Buffyverse is a sentient entity, the former consumes the latter and all the individuals in Buffyland not only get thrown into the world of darkness, but since the two dimensions operate on alternate mechanics, the former residents of the Buffyverse are changed, "translated" if you will. How would the many residents of the Buffyverse be portrayed in the World of Darkness: I will leave you with the following notes:

-So right of the bat, Buffy is a imbued hunter, in my personal oppinion, She's a judge, given that one time she tried to kill Anya because she's a demon and killed some people, it didn't matter that the people were ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, if you're a demon, and you kill, buffy kills you too, no exceptions, she might as well be The shadow, or Judge dread.

-Angel is trickier, as it is not clear cut what clan of vampire he would be: he could be a Brujah (helping the helpless and all that), or a Toredor (Because he wants to be human), or either Nosforatu or Gangrell (Because he stuggles to keep Angelus in check, angelus being The Sadistic Second personality that, for all intents and purposes, serves as angels beast within, and his beast represents an ugliness about him). Pragmaticly, if White Wolf were to Produce a Buffy show, and they wanted to recast David Bordenaz, they can circumnavigate having to apply a bunch of CGI, they can just make him a Gangrell and Cover him with Prosthetic, makeup, and over practical effects, and just call his prosthetics "The animal features found on some Gangrell" you can even copy/paste the vampire prosthetics from Buffy onto Angel

-Spike would be a similar deal to angel, though I would lean more towards Nosforatu, due to the ugliness inside him, also, Prosthetics, makeup, practical effects still apply, then again, he does have the rebellious Brujah spirit, so that can concivably work as well.

-Xander, I can see him being an avenger, seeing as thoughout the Buffyverse, we see him have a temper towards the supernatural, almost killing his supernatural adverseries on at least 2 occations that I recall, one time in the show, and another time in the comics.

-Oz, the safe bet is that Oz is a glass walker, given that dislikes being a werewolf and would much rather be human, always strugaling with his nature. Then again, his more peacefull nature would make him fit well into the children of Gia.

-Willow, a quick search on the Mage: the ascention wikipedia page informs me that willow would be most at home with the order of Hermes, Who are experts in additional occult practices, the kinds seen thoughout Buffy the vampire slayer, there's also a darker side to the order, as former members of the order artificially infected themselves with vamperism, forming the Tremere, there were also an order within the order, if I'm not mistaker, that alligned themselves with the third reich, the dark side serves a parallel with the dark side of willow that manifested in season 6. Then again, The mages of Venbera includes Witches Specificly, and like willow, have at least some mastery over life, they also don't support anti-semitism, as far as I am aware anyway.

-Anya, the last time I read the Buffy comics, I've seen Anya appear around xander in the form of a ghost. Assuming she's not a figment of Xanders early onset Schitzaphrenia, she would appear in the WoD as a Wraith. The seemingly obvious answer is the Grim Legion, given that she died at the battle at the last episode of season 7. Then again, since everything in the Buffyverse is determined by fate, and her death wasn't all that meaningless, it could be argued that her death was death by fate, thus putting her in the legion of fate.

-Vampires in general, there is one major difference between the two interpretations of vampire depicted in the respective universes: WoD vampires Generally have souls, Buffyverse Vampires don't. For a Buffy Vamp, what passes for a soul is a Demon entering where the soul should be, which make them analogous the Fallen, the WoD interpretation of demons. Turning Buffy Vamps into WoD demons isn't a perfect conversion however, in WoD, for a demon to be a demon they have to have been an angel who has fallen, Buffyverse Demons, would not qualify as Demons. Additionally whereas Buffy vamps are all Universally "Evil", there is at least one faction among the fallen who's intentions could be seen as noble, so WoD Demons can't be considered Systematicly evil. There's also the Tzamitzi, a clan of vampires who are, by and large, evil, but, as far as I'm aware, have souls, so again, not a perfect conversion. Lastly, there are the Fomori, The result of a "Bane" entering a human through the hole in the body where the soul used to be. Banes, being creations of the Wyrm (the big bad of werewolf of apocalypse) are creatures of pure evil, this last example could be the conversion that we are looking for.

Those are all the notes I can think of off the top of my head, by all means, feel free to challange your assertions and provide your own.
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If anything, it would make for an interesting mod (at least for VTM:BL2 because it will be mod supported), however, I would advise against it. You know, 'cause copyright[www.orlandosentinel.com] and all that. Depending on who holds the rights as I'm not sure if its Whedon or FOX, (the publisher studio especially) would likely want money... and lots of it.
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DragonAtma Aug 17, 2019 @ 7:58am 
Given that Buffy got along with Angel and Spike (or at least tolerated them), I imagine she'll tolerate some VtM vampires, depending on their actions and humanity.

Of course, if you put her in VtMB she may wind up fully anti-Sabbat!
Vennek Aug 17, 2019 @ 12:29pm 
Does the A.D.L. have a Steam account or what? I've never read so much drivel. Invoking the Third Reich and anti-Shemitism and all in the same long rambling post. May as count that as O.P. proving Godwin's law right from the get-go. Nobody the privileged "Elite" would think in such a manner and with such propaganda points to push intertwining separate intellectual property bundles and pushing their view of what's good and what's evil by defining it by what's good for them.
Sarif Industries Aug 17, 2019 @ 11:11pm 
Originally posted by DragonAtma:
Given that Buffy got along with Angel and Spike (or at least tolerated them), I imagine she'll tolerate some VtM vampires, depending on their actions and humanity.

Of course, if you put her in VtMB she may wind up fully anti-Sabbat!
The Sabbat are the Clossest thing to vampires without a soul, of course she'd be Anti-sabbat!
Sarif Industries Aug 17, 2019 @ 11:19pm 
Originally posted by Vennek:
Does the A.D.L. have a Steam account or what? I've never read so much drivel. Invoking the Third Reich and anti-Shemitism and all in the same long rambling post. May as count that as O.P. proving Godwin's law right from the get-go. Nobody the privileged "Elite" would think in such a manner and with such propaganda points to push intertwining separate intellectual property bundles and pushing their view of what's good and what's evil by defining it by what's good for them.

As it turns out, it was the Thuul society that supported Hitler, not the order of Hermes. Soz.
Bumbles_Bounce Aug 19, 2019 @ 1:47pm 
No No to Buffy. Sacrilege.
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