How difficult is the game?

[Uncle Nastyfingers]

The lack of difficulty options has me concerned, I always play games on the hardest difficulty because I'm just a masochist like that. I can't get enjoyment from a game if it's not difficult.

Is this game difficult out of the box? How polished and stable is this "Final Nights" mod that supposedly makes the game harder?

[Maddy]

It depends of how you play I think
And easy route would be using clan tremere or ventrue, a hard would be a malkavian and speacially nosferatu clan
There are some mods that make the need of blood more time consuming and affecting the skills, like camarilla mode and clan quest

[Vepar]

Originally posted by Maddy:

It depends of how you play I think
And easy route would be using clan tremere or ventrue, a hard would be a malkavian and speacially nosferatu clan
There are some mods that make the need of blood more time consuming and affecting the skills, like camarilla mode and clan quest

I disagree, Malkavians and Nosferatu are easy mode because you can just Obfuscate and never be seen in a fight unless they're bosses... You can just stealth kill everyone else.

OP - the only difficulty this game offers is building your character. If you fail at it and spread your points too thin, you'll never be able to finish the game. If you build to your clan's strengths, the game is easy. There's little in between.

But this game is not about difficulty. Most of the time you won't be fighting anyone, and when you do, it's mostly against humans and you're a vampire, you can just suck their blood and win that way, it's not that hard.

The game is about the story and your choices, how you approach a mission etc. Even talking to people is different from clan to clan.

[Maddy]

Originally posted by Vepar:

Originally posted by Maddy:

It depends of how you play I think
And easy route would be using clan tremere or ventrue, a hard would be a malkavian and speacially nosferatu clan
There are some mods that make the need of blood more time consuming and affecting the skills, like camarilla mode and clan quest

I disagree, Malkavians and Nosferatu are easy mode because you can just Obfuscate and never be seen in a fight unless they're bosses... You can just stealth kill everyone else.

OP - the only difficulty this game offers is building your character. If you fail at it and spread your points too thin, you'll never be able to finish the game. If you build to your clan's strengths, the game is easy. There's little in between.

But this game is not about difficulty. Most of the time you won't be fighting anyone, and when you do, it's mostly against humans and you're a vampire, you can just suck their blood and win that way, it's not that hard.

The game is about the story and your choices, how you approach a mission etc. Even talking to people is different from clan to clan.

Nah using Obfuscate can be tired some, I'm talking from experience, playing head on as malkavian, I didn't understand anything because their dialogue it's a mess, and playing as a Nosferatu you lose a lot of oportunites to do quests, so you also have less XP to work with

[thelamaknows]

Vepar makes a good point-

I think the biggest factor in difficulty is a bad build. Spread points too thin and you will just struggle late in the game.

The game is fairly easy when you build strongly for a specific style and in tune with the clan design.

The other thing is secondary elements (like firearms) are bad at the beginning of the game but become almost a requirement later on. So a build can be bad at one point but merely the foundation for being competitive later on.

[Smig]

This game can be very hard, at least in some sections, depending on your build, but it can also become super easy for the same reasons. The later happens mostly when you know what to expect already, so you might not experience that on a first playthrough, but to be perfectly honest here, if you need to play on the hardest settings to enjoy a game, then you may want to look elsewhere.

[Vepar]

Bottom line OP. If this is your first playthrough, and you go in blind, it won't be easy, don't worry.

[𝑀𝓊𝑔𝑒𝓃]

You want hard right ? Go and say hello to Ming Xao with an unoptimuzed build. You will get your need of difficulty that way lol

[Vepar]

Originally posted by 𝑀𝓊𝑔𝑒𝓃:

You want hard right ? Go and say hello to Ming Xao with an unoptimuzed build. You will get your need of difficulty that way lol

Hahaha, and when all the blood bags are spent after that fight is somehow won, then there's still the big one after that! :D
This game is not lacking in difficulty.
It may seem that way because most people have finished it 1000 times already and know the most efficient build, and where to get all items and XP, but first timers won't have it that easy.

[𝑀𝓊𝑔𝑒𝓃]

Originally posted by Vepar:

Originally posted by 𝑀𝓊𝑔𝑒𝓃:

You want hard right ? Go and say hello to Ming Xao with an unoptimuzed build. You will get your need of difficulty that way lol

Hahaha, and when all the blood bags are spent after that fight is somehow won, then there's still the big one after that! :D
This game is not lacking in difficulty.
It may seem that way because most people have finished it 1000 times already and know the most efficient build, and where to get all items and XP, but first timers won't have it that easy.

In my first blind playthrough I was very focused on using guns but the problem was that I tried to be good at everything so eventually I ended up being good at nothing and so by the time I got to ming I hit a wall in the game that I couldn't progress for over an hour. She was hitting like a tank while I did the damage of a fly.......fun times

Edit: I was a venture and spamming fortitude saved me otherwise I would have not been able to finish the game

[Smig]

I don't know if the OP cares but you guys are getting into spoilery territory there. If I were on a blind playthough, I'd rather not have certain pre-existing expectations of certain characters.

[Vepar]

Originally posted by Smig:

I don't know if the OP cares but you guys are getting into spoilery territory there. If I were on a blind playthough, I'd rather not have certain pre-existing expectations of certain characters.

You're right, we already said too much.

[Uncle Nastyfingers]

I appreciate all the feedback, and I always encounter a few spoilers when doing my research on games, but it's worth it to know I'll be getting into something I'm going to enjoy.

It sounds like playing with Final Nights is the way to go, although thankfully it also sounds like vanilla is challenging enough if you're not powergaming and don't know where everything is.

[Neopatra]

All am going to say there's 2 clans that might the game a extra diffcult if playing it for the first time. Am not sure about the mod though I can't answer that.

But my dude the game freakin fun either way xP

[Ghost]

If this is your first playthrough, go in and enjoy the game. Avoid wikis, guides, etc.