What build/character for Unofficial Patch?

[SnowFlakeToken]

I beat this game a LONG time ago, back when it was buggy, I think within 3-6 months of its release. I loved it, but back then I could barely run the game. Now I can run it just fine at 1440p 60-80fps due to ReShade MXAO, which makes the game look fantastic!

I don't even know where to start. The Unofficial Patch changed SO much. I installed the full thing, not just the basic. I think I want to make a Tremere character, but how should I spread my points to have a strong build?

[Conker]

id recommend playing tremere for the first run ;)
you are actually pretty free in how you want to play the game

i have finished the games a few times

you definitely need hacking / lockpicking / combat defense

obviously spent a few points thraumaturgy if you play a tremere

a few points in melee because at the beginning till mid game you dont have alot of guns
when you are in the third town start to spend points in ranged so that you are able to use guns too

besides that spent a little bit in speech skills ... or dont depends on how you want to play XD

just play the game and have fun ;)

[Conker]

after that definitely do a malkavian run XD

but i recommend a malk run after you know the story because alot of malk stuff only makes sense after you beat the game once

[IvantheFormidable]

For playing a Tremere, I'd always suggest investing heavily in their special discipline of thraumaturgy due to it's insane power, as well as being something unique to that clan. Other than that, the user Conker has covered most of what I'd suggest. Build your character around how you want to play, but I'd suggest trying to "keep up" as it were with hacking and lockpicking to open more doors (literally and figuratively), unless you're planning on doing multiple playthroughs.

From a purely utilitarian perspective, persuasion is considered the most useful of the social skills, and combat defense is always nice to have. You can certainly get by without having it, but it makes things much easier.

Like Conker said, starting with melee and transitioning to ranged makes sense most of the time, but once you've geared up and invested sufficient points, it's largely a personal preference imo.

[Bumbles_Bounce]

Max Thaumaturgy and take Auspex up to 3 and used Ranged as a back up or Max Auspex with Ranged and Defense as a priority and take Thaumaturgy up to 3 as back up/early use. Max your Defense (Wits/Dodge -Auspex will buff) Stamina no more than 3. You will also need some dex/lockpick (blood buff will help with this) and some Computer (Wits and Auspex will buff it.) If you go the Auspex route make gettting it to 5 your top priority.

[SnowFlakeToken]

Thanks! These were exactly my thoughts. Be it Fallout 1/2, Deus Ex or this game, Here's how I prefer to prioritize skills:
1. PC, Lock-picking, conversation
2. Stealth
3. Combat

With such a priority, I get to open up the most content in the game, make fighting more unique and difficult. If you do it the other way around, you get more of a hack-slash experience.
I am now thinking that perhaps for my priorities, Tremere is not the best build?


BTW, those who beat the game before any of the Unofficial Patches and then beat it again with Unofficial Patch, did the game become more enjoyable? I really hope to notice that extra restored content!

Some other questions:
Can this game be played properly with DS4/Xbox One controller?

[IvantheFormidable]

I played the game through without the unofficial patch, then with the patch, then with the plus patch, and I can definitely say that having the patch makes a big difference in terms of not only avoiding quest breaking glitches, but the plus patch also restores some quests and changes some items around.

That's not a bad series of progression in terms of stats, but make sure to keep up in terms of combat. The game's last third focuses heavily on combat, and it can be very difficult if you've been playing a social/sneak character. I made that mistake once, but as long as you're keeping up in disciplines or dropping the occasional point in your preferred fighting feat, you're good to go.

Honestly, it doesn't really matter which clan you pick (outside of Nosferatu and Malk) in terms of your build. It only really comes down to which disciplines you want to use. Toreador isn't a bad choice for the priorities you've laid out, but nothing to say that you can't have a talkative and sneaky Tremere.

[Bumbles_Bounce]

As @IvantheFormidable said Tremere can go Melee/Sneak/Social. Just bear in mind that one of your Attributes is going to be very slow to develop. If you do go Melee/Sneak and are using the plus patch, use one of the histories that swaps whatever Attribute you want to a more favorable position for points. It can be done. I played a sneaky female melee Tremere with some Thaumaturgy (3). She was an Infiltrator. She was an awesome play-through, I still have pictures of her on a USB drive.

Just keep in mind that the last 1/4 of the game is very shooter-centric, You can do it if you play smart and use your abilities to the fullest. Ming Xao will be your toughest fight and as melee she is a FEMALE DOG, I can tell you.

[Mewsha]

I just finished a Tremere play through after so many years. It was great! The stats I prioritized for my build were Thaumaturgy, Lockpicking, and Melee. Other stats I invested in were intimidation and sneaking. Maxing out Thaumaturgy is something I always do as Tremere because blood boil is OP. Lockpicking is a no brainer in almost every RPG for me. Melee was a personal choice, but I'm not a big fan of the guns in this game. A lot of the later levels I relied on the old stealth/backstabbing with a katana as well.

Personally, I hated the Chang Brothers the most. Ming Xiao was difficult, but I was well prepared for her after the headache the Chang Brothers gave me. Plus her base is crawling with free blood packs unlike with some other bosses. All I had to do was prepare for a long fight and bring blood packs.