i'm having trouble using nexus(vortex) mods for my vampire the mastquerades bloodlines game

[ScarhunterGames]

i have the mods (Top Mods) installed but there is no difference to anything, am i setting it up wrong, i have the game on steam, but don't see any changes to the game(maybe it's still new to being modded, i hope someone can help me figure this out, i could try on the nexus or vortex (not sure if they are the same company or not) i'd like to see the mods that people have made some are really good like for fallout 4 and skyrim

[ScarhunterGames]

i went into the game too, no changes that the mods would do were in the game, so either i've installed the mods somewhere else or the mods don't work... i did check one thing which might be a reason... the nexus mods site listed vampire the masquerade: bloodlines as beta, maybe it's not working for this yet. i installed the unofficial patch from nexus and 23 other mods, that were on the top listed mods(total of 24 mods)

[ScarhunterGames]

i'll keep trying things until i get some kind or reply

[ScarhunterGames]

i might have figured it out looks like i need to instal each mod manually, i'm starting with the unofficial patch hopefully this is the solution i'll reply if it does or not

[R.I.P]

The nexus added those "Mod Manager Download" buttons "automatically", that is, they just appeared on the file pages without any confirmation by the authors. Though, there was an option to remove the button, I think some of the files never had the mod manager download button to begin with (not sure if the way they are packaged matters).

I was worried that Vortex wasn't going to work with the "Mod Loader" that the patches and larger mods utilize.

There was a person that asked for help with a two file mod (only one of the files had a mod manager download), so I told them to install the main files manually, they never replied, so I assumed that the Vortex mod files were working with the manually installed main mod files.

I had planned on testing these issues for myself, but I think I remember reading that once you install Vortex, it's the only way to install files for that game (or something equally troublesome). Is this true?

I wanted to ask about this stuff on the forums, but I didn't want to cause a panic over something that I wasn't sure was an issue yet, as I there doesn't seem to have been a surge of complaints on the mod pages, which is usually what happens when something gets seriously broken.

https://forums.nexusmods.com/

Edit: Also, some of the Vortex compatible games have an "installation wiki" of sorts, but I wasted a bunch time going round in circles trying to find one for Vampire.

[R.I.P]

By the way... I hope that you're reading the description pages of all of those mods, not just adding twenty-three mods to a "list", and expecting them to work without any clashing of identical edited files...

I'll assume that Vortex has some sort of file hierarchy mechanism like most mod managers, but installing all of the top mods manually, there would almost certainly be some incompatibilities between them.

On the mod's "files" tab page, you can usually find a "preview file contents" button, that can help to give you an idea of which types of files a mod archive contains.

[ScarhunterGames]

thanks i'm slowly figuring it out i have see if i need to place the other folders into the Vampire file after (I installed the unofficial patch and seeing how to work the other mods there look like it is manually that patch working, just working on the other mods now

[acornco]

does the nexus mod manager actualy work with vtmb? vtmb is old... pretty far removed from modern concepts of "plug and play" mods worked into games like skyrim.

i always turn the mod manager option off for the mods i upload. they'r all copy paste overwrite/override...

i doubt very much the mod manager is designed to automatically back up files being overwritten.

that said... i never used it one way or the other... even when i downloaded mods for skyrim.

[R.I.P]

The most modern manager that I used was the original Mod Organizer for Skyrim, it was considered to be the more technical (highest learning curve) choice of managers, but in some ways more powerful.

It utilized a "virtual folder directory" that kept most of the vanilla files unaffected, much like the Mod Loader does for Bloodlines. It isolated loose files from installed mods in separate folders for each mod. You could change the load order -which determines which files get overwritten by identical files- or even switch off a particular mod, or file, to help determine a conflict, all virtually
done through the interface.

Having isolated mod folders was also convenient for working on, or testing your own edits or mod projects.

I'm going to assume that there is a virtual game installation folder, installed somewhere. Tannin, the guy that worked on Mod Organizer is working on the Vortex team.

Of course, there were many people that didn't like M.O. because it appeared to be overly complex, but it was easy for me to make the transition because it felt like the "big brother" of FOMM, which I used for Fallout 3.


I think I spent an hour looking at the Vortex FAQ, just trying to figure out it actually works. Not how to install it or run it, but how it works.

[ScarhunterGames]

i figured it out last night but forgot to mention on here, all the mods i added work and i hope they will have future updates, and other mods, and i'm looking forward to the game's sequel next year, i hope it's good, i want them to succeed, hopeful it's not being rushed if they have to push back the release to 2021, if they need to to make it better at least to the standard on VTMB

[R.I.P]

Did you install the working mods manually, through Vortex, or using both methods?


I found some Gopher videos starting from FEB 2019:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLE7DlYarj-DfYgxma5znKGYEqAHDU_WU-

Also, I believe that the "Top Mods", are selected monthly by an algorithm that detects endorsements (or something similar), so it's not exactly a guarantee of quality.

[acornco]

thats pretty cool. ty rip. gonna have to check that out.

[ScarhunterGames]

yeah i did them manually but i had to remove the mods, yesterday,

i couldn't get my persuasion high enough to talk janus sisters down so they don't kill the other personality (hope that makes sense) so i figured it was a problem with one or more mods,

i tried the 6 7 & 8 ranks (charisma 4) (Scholarship 4), the option to talk down the sisters and save them both, didn't happen.

i removed the mods, except for the unofficial patch, i'm going to try it again today, and see if removing the mods fixed the problem,

i do plan to look at the mods again, try to figure out which one or ones, gave me trouble (VTM:B is still as a beta for modding),

so i figure they are just starting to do mods for it so i will look into them some more in the future

[Wesp5]

Originally posted by Scarhunter:

i tried the 6 7 & 8 ranks (charisma 4) (Scholarship 4), the option to talk down the sisters and save them both, didn't happen.

To save them both you need to have been polite to both of them before, by the time of the final dialogue it might be too late...

[R.I.P]

Thank you for the report.

There are people on these forums that know quite a lot about the quests, I'm not one of them though. Maybe someone else can tell you the requirements for the quest.

If you post again, mention which version number of the Unofficial Patch, and whether you installed the "basic" or "plus" version.


Guide may not be up to date:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=215066276

Edit: thanks wesp5

[ScarhunterGames]

i was polite to them all the way through one time through i sent a club patron to the blood clinic to become a permanent donor, and the only other thing is i took the donation money from the gallery, in the past these things didn't change the janus ability to save them both, unless it's something new from UOP 10.4, which is the newest i've played with so far(i think it was sometime this year it came out, i could be wrong