Obfuscate Break Range?

[Lt. Low Self Esteem]

Does Obfuscate have a distance where it just breaks regardless whether or not you touched anything? It kept happening to me in the Coffee Shop for Beckett's quest. I used Obfuscate 5, and it just broke when I was about at least a meter in front of him. The note in the top left corner said "Obfuscate 5 failed: Someone can see you". How does this work? I wasn't touching him or anything else but Obfuscate just decided he could see me

[Vepar]

Someone else was watching you. ;)

[malvex_pavak17]

Is that the point of the snack/victim/sacrifice that comes after you in the coffee shop, the sabat guys are watching how you would handle it? I thought it it was a poor unfortunate guy who picked the exact wrong time to rob the place. If one searches the area with Auspex would one see them?

[Wesp5]

Originally posted by Lt. Low Self Esteem:

The note in the top left corner said "Obfuscate 5 failed: Someone can see you". How does this work?

Many vampires in this game, as well as this Sabbat ghoul, have something called "True Sight", which will see through your Obfuscate. Just imagine they use Auspex...

[malvex_pavak17]

Originally posted by wesp5:

Originally posted by Lt. Low Self Esteem:

The note in the top left corner said "Obfuscate 5 failed: Someone can see you". How does this work?

Many vampires in this game, as well as this Sabbat ghoul, have something called "True Sight", which will see through your Obfuscate. Just imagine they use Auspex...

So, there is just a ghoul sent after you? I guess they were trying to be polite and offer a snack. Still, how does a ghoul get true sight? I thought ghouls could only learn the physical disciplines unless they are also some other half supernatural like sorcerers or wolf blooded or whatever it is called. Well, I guess it could be a power of true faith or a magic item or effect/discipline cast on/through them, but that is a lot of effort for such a weak punk... then again sabbat being stupid *shrugs*

[malvex_pavak17]

No, thinking further on it, it actually makes sense, ignoring the lasombre never uses dominate on you in the fight with him, he could have used some abyss mysticism on the ghoul to give him true sight and either possessed him or maybe used even more abyss mysticism to see through his eyes to use as a scout. I still think it is a massive waste and he should have gotten a pack mate to possess a rat or something to scout us out as that ghoul was worse than useless against us but then, even that knowledge of the players relative strength could be helpful and he does send a more proper threat later and maybe we did have a small animal watching us that we couldn't see.

Wesp5, something that still confuses me though, after you kill the Lasombre why does one of the tzimiscze ghouls show up just as you are leaving? Yes, it ups the difficulty of not being noticed but it is rather random especially as it is just one when Andre seems to make them in huge batches, preferring quantity to quality, at least with the time he has available.

[Lt. Low Self Esteem]

Originally posted by malvex_pavak17:

Wesp5, something that still confuses me though, after you kill the Lasombre why does one of the tzimiscze ghouls show up just as you are leaving?

I always interpreted that as the game telling you Andrei is still alive

[Lt. Low Self Esteem]

Originally posted by wesp5:

Many vampires in this game, as well as this Sabbat ghoul, have something called "True Sight", which will see through your Obfuscate. Just imagine they use Auspex...

Okay that clears things up a lot, thanks

[malvex_pavak17]

Originally posted by Lt. Low Self Esteem:

Originally posted by malvex_pavak17:

Wesp5, something that still confuses me though, after you kill the Lasombre why does one of the tzimiscze ghouls show up just as you are leaving?

I always interpreted that as the game telling you Andrei is still alive

Well, there was so little of the library left in the game when troikia was forced to release vtmb in an incomplete state Wesp5 had to restore a lot of it by talking to the devs and then working from scratch/stealing things from other parts of the game, so I thought he would know the reasoning there.

[Wesp5]

Originally posted by malvex_pavak17:

I thought he would know the reasoning there.

To be honest the main reason behind this was to give the player a final surprise ;)!

[malvex_pavak17]

Thank you!