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Vepar Feb 14, 2018 @ 12:01pm
Therese and Janette [spoilers]
I can't save both of them, umm, why?
I'm using the 9.9 plus patch.

Seduction 3, i chose every seduction line for janette and all the nice dialogue options for both of them, and i have 6 persuation, and i chose persuation when i gave Therese the necklace. I get no blue dialogue options when they're at each other's throats througout the whole dialogue.

I don't remember this ever being so difficult to pull off. Why does this have to be so convoluted? Did i miss one line god knows where and now i can't reconcile them?

I'm playing as a Malkavian.
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Wesp5 Feb 14, 2018 @ 12:32pm 
Open the console and type G.Jeanette_Seduce and G.Therese_Seduce. Both must be at least 4 to reconcile them!
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Vepar Feb 14, 2018 @ 12:44pm 
Originally posted by wesp5:
Open the console and type G.Jeanette_Seduce and G.Therese_Seduce. Both must be at least 4 to reconcile them!

Ok, thanks, but... How do i do it properly through dialogue? I purposefully chose only social skills when making a character and leveled up only seduction and persuasion, yet i still don't get persuasion options during the final confrontation.

Did something change since the last patch? I don't remember doing anything bad to either of them. I seduced Janette the first time i met her, kissed therese's ass when talking to her the first time, choosing only "yes ma'am" options, seduced janette the second time, not giving her the locket, used persuasion on therese after the art gallery and gave her the locket and that should have been enough right?

I don't know where i went wrong. Weird...

EDIT: Therese_Seduce is 3 and Janette_Seduce is 0, What? If anything I pandered to Janette more... So weird...
Last edited by Vepar; Feb 14, 2018 @ 1:18pm
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sirericbreheny Feb 14, 2018 @ 3:01pm 
Vepar unfortunately as I found out unless your seduction skills meet the requirements the only thing you can do is have Jeanette grab Therese's gun as she shoots the painting, ironically Jeanette is right handed switching it as Therese's personna is left handed, in the struggle it looks like Jeanette shoots Therese but in the anime one little girl in the painting is shot.
I was not sure because my seduction skills were about 2 and 3 certainly not up to 4 so I was not sure if it were me being a Tremere Character or something else.
Last edited by sirericbreheny; Feb 21, 2018 @ 12:45pm
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Vepar Feb 14, 2018 @ 4:05pm 
Yes, but the point was, i did have enough seduction and i used it on Janette twice. And i still got G.Janette_Seduce result 0. Maybe it's a glitch? I don't know. But i did do the exact same thing before and i managed to reconcile them, yet this time, for some reason seduction and being nice to janette had no effect, and even therese didn't have fully maxed disposition towards me.
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Wesp5 Feb 15, 2018 @ 5:27am 
Originally posted by Vepar:
Yes, but the point was, i did have enough seduction and i used it on Janette twice. And i still got G.Janette_Seduce result 0.

This variable has nothing to do with actually using Seduction lines on her, just how you talk. And you can piss her off quite easily when you don't give her the pendant.
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Vepar Feb 15, 2018 @ 6:02am 
Originally posted by wesp5:
Originally posted by Vepar:
Yes, but the point was, i did have enough seduction and i used it on Janette twice. And i still got G.Janette_Seduce result 0.

This variable has nothing to do with actually using Seduction lines on her, just how you talk. And you can piss her off quite easily when you don't give her the pendant.

Wait, i'm supposed to give her the pendant? Won't that piss off Therese then?
Well at least i know where i went wrong, i didn't give her the pendant.
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Wesp5 Feb 15, 2018 @ 10:03am 
Originally posted by Vepar:
Wait, i'm supposed to give her the pendant?

No, but you must be very careful when not doing so, like choose all calming answers.
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Vepar Feb 15, 2018 @ 10:56am 
Originally posted by wesp5:
Originally posted by Vepar:
Wait, i'm supposed to give her the pendant?

No, but you must be very careful when not doing so, like choose all calming answers.

I did. Well at least i think i did, Malkavian dialogue might have thrown me off, but i was as gentle as possible.
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Kdyver Feb 16, 2018 @ 6:09pm 
There is no Jeanette, she does not exist, at least no anymore. If she existed some day, died decades before you find Therese.

A personal hypothesis of mine... The one you meet is only Therese...
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Vepar Feb 16, 2018 @ 6:17pm 
Originally posted by Kdyver:
There is no Jeanette, she does not exist, at least no anymore. If she existed some day, died decades before you find Therese.

A personal hypothesis of mine... The one you meet is only Therese...

Yes i've read all the theories. ;)
Therese "brought Janette into this world" as she said.
Personally i think Therese is an only child, and Janette was her imaginary friend, polar opposite of her because she's everything Therese couldn't be, and her coping mechanism for when father "had his way with her". She even said they imagined their worlds together.

Then when she was embraced by a Malkavian, Janette personality actually surfaced for real.

So i don't think Janette ever really existed as a separate person.
Last edited by Vepar; Feb 16, 2018 @ 6:17pm
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sirericbreheny Feb 19, 2018 @ 5:42am 
Originally posted by Kdyver:
There is no Jeanette, she does not exist, at least no anymore. If she existed some day, died decades before you find Therese.

A personal hypothesis of mine... The one you meet is only Therese...

BULLONGIE! I am sorry to burst your bubble Kdyver but Jeanette is the only one that was the real daughter and she had a bipolar mental disorder before she became a Malkavian. Vepar I disagree with you about your theory, it seems that her Daddy was bothered by the Therese Personality at first and was going to take her to an Asylum Institution to lobottomize her so that the Therese Personallity would hold dominance because at first only Jeanette was the dominant while Her "Daddy" wanted to make her into a vampire "businesswoman" and Jeanette rebelled after Daddy tried to seduce her and make her the "Good Girl"! You forget that Jeanette herself says that they did seperate them both, (locked her in an Asylum about to do an medical proceedure on her) but Therese "escaped" and met up with Jeanette again. As Jeanette reminds Therese that the first thing she did was escape and meet up with her; I think Jeanette managed to get out of the Asylum and kept on the run for a while.
Last edited by sirericbreheny; Feb 21, 2018 @ 1:27pm
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Kdyver Feb 19, 2018 @ 5:08pm 
Originally posted by sirericbreheny:

You forget that Jeanette herself says that they did seperate them both, (locked her in an Asylum about to do an medical proceedure on her) but Therese "escaped" and met up with Jeanette again. As Jeanette reminds Therese that the first thing she did was escape and meet up with her; I think Jeanette managed to get out of the Asylum and kept on the run for a while.

Humm... Thats a point...
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Vepar Feb 19, 2018 @ 5:17pm 
Yeah, interesting. I always forget the part about her saying that they tried separating them.
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Kdyver Feb 19, 2018 @ 5:26pm 
I'm not convinced, but is good to see another point of view.
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Vepar Feb 19, 2018 @ 5:30pm 
I'd have to go through all their dialogue again to see and form my own theory, but yeah, maybe Janette is the "actual" personality. Maybe i thought Therese was because she's more "stable" (lol), but maybe Therese is the stability Janette never got in life, but desired so she made Therese up.

Interesting in any case.
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