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The president is just ridiculous and both Lacroix and Nines are way more powerful than one measly thin blood.
You can send him to attack anyone, doesn't matter. You'll lose humanity if you do since you're sending him to his death.
You won't send him to his death in all cases if you use the plus Unoffiicial Patch ;)!
I must have missed that option!
It is a very recent addition as is the skeleton in LaCroix's office: If you send him to Nines, he will later be a guard at the Chateau Hotel! Because I figured Nines would not kill but recruit him...
That's cool. I just figured he never gets to either of them but dies from a random ghoul or vamp goon either of them have. I mean, copper didn't seem like some extremely taxtical person that can hatch a plan to even get to lacroix top suite or find nines.
Even so I guessed he would talk his way inside the Venture Tower and The Last Round first, after all why should the prince or Nines fear a thin blood? But once he pulls out the stake, I'm sure that the Sheriff would just waste him while Nines might be able to disarm him and talk him to reason.
Well...
Thing is, how did he even get to the tower past the guard in the first place? I as princes "protege" can't get to him whenever i want, only when he opens up the floor. And if he killed the guard that would raise the alarm instantly, and even if he sneaked past the guard and somehow found an open door, the place is crawling with vampires each one more powerful than him. I mean why would LaCroix even bother letting a thin blood in, he knows what they are, he doesn't seem like someone who would even talk to him, let alone that he managed to pull out a stake in LaCroix' own Haven...
I mean, players are supposed to be a pretty high(low?) generation vampire that's more powerful than most and i can't pull a gun or a stake at LaCroix.
As far as Nines is concerned, that i can see - kind of... Like, if he made an exception or something, but i got the feeling that none of the actual vampires are happy with thin bloods, don't want anything to do with them... But if Copper did get as far as actually confronting Nines, maaaaayyyybe Nines brujah temper didn't kick in and he didn't waste him on the spot? Cause Jack is a Brujah and like most of their clan they don't exactly think when they're attacked, shoot first, ask questions later...
You can't use weapons in Elysium areas because you obey the rules. Copper is no member of the Camarilla, so why should he care? Also Chunk is dumb enough to let him up.
I think Nines is so much stronger than Copper that it would be easy for him to disarm the guy with Celerity. And both Jack and Copper care about Caitiff...
True, otherwise the whole last part of the game doesn't make sense since you're storming his Elysium all guns blazing and using your powers. I never thought of it that way. Chunk? That has some continuity problems but ok.
In any case. Good that you mention Chunk because, Chunk is actually a good security guard in that respect, he never lets the player character to see LaCroix no matter what you say when LaCroix doesn't want you. And since Chunk wouldn't have worked there when you send Copper, whoever worked there before him was dumb enough to let Copper up, Copper got toasted by the sheriff, the first guy lost his job and they hired Chunk instead.
Chunk is too stubborn to let anyone up unless LaCroix specifically said so.
Chunk is life.
There. That makes sense now.
All is explained, how Copper got to LaCroix.
I never said Nines isn't strong, he obviously is, but is he the kind to disarm someone brandishing a stake at him or kill them outright? Because Jack would and most other Brujah too, they're not into disarming people. I think they're all powerful enough to not frenzy at the sight of danger, but i'm still kinda iffy about Brujah disarming people. Could be though, so yeah, it's not like you made LaCroix disarm him so it's possible. :)
Where did you gather that Jack cares about Caitiff? Or Nines for that matter? Is it some dialogue i missed? And if they care so much, why are the thin bloods hiding at the beach? Why not just take them in at the last round?
Digression: Maybe it would be a cool addition to a future patch to make an option that if you're good with the anarchs and you send Copper to Nines, that he gathers the remaining thin bloods at the last Round? I mean, Lilly and E leave anyway and Julius is in another quest that could pose some problems (and continuitiy issues - Hatter's dialogue places Julius as "hobo that lives on the beach), but idk... Maybe just Copper and Rosa, and the couple until they leave. Just a thought.
Anyway, cool addition to the patch, it's always nice to see new stuff added in. It's also amazing that such an old game can still spark such conversations.
Not all Caitiff are thin bloods. By default most anarchs are all right with Caitiff seeing as that is a decent amount of their member base. Thin bloods are not much different in their eyes. A lot of the younger anarchs don't care enough about kindred mythology to get why elders think thin bloods are an evit omen. And quite a few would actually be all for anything that elders hate. Jack knows enough to be clued in but it's iffy that he actually believes it.
As for why the anarchs didn't take them in. Does Nines even know they are out on that beach? I think Nines would help them out if they showed up at the Last Round but it is a big town and everyone has their own pressing concerns.