Majesty: Gold Edition

Majesty: Gold Edition

meow Jul 24, 2020 @ 11:33pm
Why is this so much higher rated than Majesty 2?
Was Majesty 2 really that poor of a sequel, or does nostalgia have that much weight here?

Frankly, it's been enough time that people probably have nostalgia for even Majesty 2. In fact, it's much more likely. I've hardly even ever heard of people who actually played Majesty as a child, much less in its release decade.
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Reality Jul 25, 2020 @ 6:05am 
I hear about Majesty on a handful of my other forums. I think it was part of the CD in a cereal box thing from Nutri-Grain back in the 2000s. (Majesty 2 was too late to be part of that era)

I think the only PC game that had an ad for it on the back of the instruction booklet were Caesar 3 and one of the Mech Warrior games. Other than that I think I only see people play it after word of mouth.

Majesty 2 feels like they were advertised on the back of a LOT of Paradox Published PC gameboxes / manuals in the later 2000s, Usually it had a double AD putting Maj2 and Elven Legacy together.

My problems with Majesty 2
Objective Reasons
Incomplete Translation (especially for expansion mission briefings)
Offmap Attack Waves and Lair spawn speed can bug out to be more frequent than intended

Nostalgic Reasons
Hero indepndence is toned down
Awful Numbers bloat, especially in levels with bosses Maj 1's final boss still only had 500HP
Missions in the second half of the game revolve around "Temple" Heros, while Majesty 1 didn't really have such a strong tier system between it's basic heroes and temple heroes.
M2's Colorful WoW-esque art is fine, but not terribly unique since lotta games did that while the kind of early 3D models in Majesty are evocative in a way that reminds me of only a few other games, mainly Heroes of Might and Magic 3.

I'm willing to defend the Warlock game's as being worthy of (Some) nostalgia, but M2's a bit of a mess. If It weren't for my personal bias, I think I already have to put in a "Majesty 1 has a uneven and big spikes in difficulty" warning when I recomend it to new people, but Majesty 2 has like 10X the problem --- The 4-9th missions all feature vicious earlygame rush type map designs, the expansion content (especially Kingmaker) is even more obscene.
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Gongnad Oct 3, 2020 @ 1:46pm 
majesty 2 involved rushing dwarves out as fast as you can
Majesty 1 actually fun
Hassat Hunter Oct 3, 2020 @ 2:31pm 
It's not particuarly a bad game. But it's a bad sequel.
MFKS is mostly a sim game. With heroes having their own personalities, and being wildly different. Which did lead to balance problems between them.

MFKS2 heavily invested in Multiplayer (for some reason) which sadly meant it changed into a RTS with indirect control. Characters were very similar, except their cost and stats, to make them better balanced against each other in PvP. However this costs in singleplayer, which I think most MFKS players play.
So they were trying to 'improve' on the things people didn't care about, thereby damaging what they did. Resulting in massive dissapointment from original players.
Vlad302002 Oct 11, 2020 @ 12:24am 
How to play online? Can anyone tell ?? Hamachi does not see the network, and GameRanger does not launch the game at all ... How to play THIS on the network ???
quixoticaxis Apr 4, 2021 @ 2:33pm 
I played both on release. Majesty 2 is an ok game, but a few subjectively poor design decisions were made in it. Also the basic campaign is much more boring than the campaign of original Majesty.
Majesty 2 has less buildings than Majesty 1 and its just all about destroying enemy lairs early in the game. Also AI is terrible, heroes just run around and die like idiots or simply dont do anything.
Saxton May 16, 2021 @ 10:02am 
Well, not all of us were children when M1 was released. As an adult, I've enjoyed playing it for the last 20 years. It's the kind of game I never get tired of playing.

M2 is like someone offering to cook you a meal based a recipe your grandmother used to make. The main ingredients are mostly there, and if you'd never eaten what your grandmother made, you'd probably think it was pretty good. But somehow it doesn't quite come together in the same way.
xSamhainx May 24, 2021 @ 7:54am 
The original has far more personality and charm, in my opinion, and that keeps me playing more than anything else.
renaishtar Jun 3, 2021 @ 2:12pm 
Originally posted by mouse:
Was Majesty 2 really that poor of a sequel, or does nostalgia have that much weight here?

Frankly, it's been enough time that people probably have nostalgia for even Majesty 2. In fact, it's much more likely. I've hardly even ever heard of people who actually played Majesty as a child, much less in its release decade.
Majesty one is "a fantasy kingdom sim" and that is what I got.

Majesty two is a "tower defense arcade" mascarading as a fantasy kingdom sim. Narratively the story is improved. Graphics? improvement but also different direction. The heroes are shackled to their buildings where before paladins (or any class) can and will venture to the other side of the map without prompt from you.

Animals acted like animals in one. Two? all enemies (with a few boss like exceptions) RUN at you with intent to kill.


In One i could build up a small kingdom and watch the life of Sir Brian and, once done, wrap up the game. In Two? it is business; better fortify now or you won't make it and good luck getting any help without the money for bounties...
rusty_dragon Sep 8, 2021 @ 2:42pm 
Majesty 2 has good graphics and engine. But lacks on gameplay and especially gameplay balance.
And while Majesty: Fantasy Kingdom Sim simulates heroes playing Dungeons&Dragons RPG - Majesty 2 thrown that core idea out of the window. Majesty 2 also killed chances for the continuation of a series.

Also whole idea behind nostalgia is BS. Video games don't age.
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Menkerot Jul 21, 2022 @ 5:32am 
Rather second. Both games have ups and downs and far from ideal.
meow Jul 21, 2022 @ 3:01pm 
I never played Majesty 2 but I had Majesty as a kid and played it for so long that "MORE GOLD, YOUR MAJESTY!" and the Sean Connery impression narrator were burned into my brain.

Obviously, due to nostalgia, I STRONGLY prefer Majesty 1. But I'm not so blinded by nostalgia I can't see that Majesty 2 clearly improves on many things.
rusty_dragon Jul 21, 2022 @ 3:25pm 
Originally posted by nepdisc:
I never played Majesty 2 but I had Majesty as a kid and played it for so long that "MORE GOLD, YOUR MAJESTY!" and the Sean Connery impression narrator were burned into my brain.

Obviously, due to nostalgia, I STRONGLY prefer Majesty 1. But I'm not so blinded by nostalgia I can't see that Majesty 2 clearly improves on many things.
I also can't see that Majesty 2 improves on many things.
meow Jul 21, 2022 @ 4:05pm 
Originally posted by rusty_dragon:
Originally posted by nepdisc:
I never played Majesty 2 but I had Majesty as a kid and played it for so long that "MORE GOLD, YOUR MAJESTY!" and the Sean Connery impression narrator were burned into my brain.

Obviously, due to nostalgia, I STRONGLY prefer Majesty 1. But I'm not so blinded by nostalgia I can't see that Majesty 2 clearly improves on many things.
I also can't see that Majesty 2 improves on many things.

are you saying that out of spite because you don't like the developers?
Saxton Jul 21, 2022 @ 4:10pm 
I also have a hard time seeing where M2 improves on many things, and not out of spite (a weird thought). I'm indifferent to the developers.

I do like the way parties can be formally created in M2. I can't think of much else that I think is *better* than the original Majesty.
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