Paradoxology how to unlock?

[Mytharox]

Could someone help me out with this achievement please?

Paradoxology
Both killed your future self and got killed by your future self.

So far I haven't been able to unlock it. I did get self-killer and impossible-death at the same time when I reflected damage at one attempt.

[EnD]

shouldn't it be counted over multiple games?

[Mytharox]

That or perhaps there is another part somewhere where you have to kill your earlier self? I might have missed something.

[EnD]

as temporal warden didn't encountered it. maybe as paradox mage

[Dekar]

newAchievement{
name = "Impossible Death", id = "PARADOX_NOW",
show = "name",
desc = [[Got killed by your future self.]],
on_gain = function(_, src, personal)
if world:hasAchievement("PARADOX_FUTURE") then world:gainAchievement("PARADOX_FULL", src) end
end,
}
newAchievement{
name = "Self-killer", id = "PARADOX_FUTURE",
show = "name",
desc = [[Killed your future self.]],
on_gain = function(_, src, personal)
if world:hasAchievement("PARADOX_NOW") then world:gainAchievement("PARADOX_FULL", src) end
end,
}
newAchievement{
name = "Paradoxology", id = "PARADOX_FULL",
show = "name",
desc = [[Both killed your future self and got killed by your future self.]],
}


Looks like you should get it if you have Impossible Death and Self-killer achievements.

[EnD]

so it does count over multiple games. my question is thou, how to do it, since after reducing future self to like half of hp, he one shot our character?

[Mytharox]

With the displaced damage from the shield you do 1366224 damage to your future self and to your own. (Displaced damage from the sever timeline spell.)

I got both achievements at the same time and 3 achievements for doing insane damage, just not the Paradoxology for some reason.

Screenshot:
http://puu.sh/7Dc2d.jpg

[Dekar]

Did you get it on a different character already?

[Mytharox]

So far I had no luck and as you can see here:

People were unlocking it at an average rate of once per day or more and since 2014-02-06 that suddenly stopped and nobody has gained it since, so it's most likely broken.
http://te4.org/game-statistics/achievement/paradox_full?page=1

While Self-Killer just continues to unlock fine and at the same rate.
http://te4.org/game-statistics/achievement/paradox_future

[Dekar]

Thanks for you efforts in pointing in out, definitly looks broken.

[Dekar]

Actually, people still seem to earn it with 1.1.5 chars.

[EnD]

Originally posted by Dekar:

Actually, people still seem to earn it with 1.1.5 chars.

This can be happening due to sheer luck. If the game throw in two achievs at the same time, due to one paradox situation with future self, maybe it depends which one pop up first. Then this one is counted towards paradoxology, and the other does not. So it brake down into the situation "who dies first". At least that's how I see this, because apparently I also have both achievements but no paradoxology.

[Mytharox]

I agree, I am not sure where you can see people still earn it with 1.1.5 chars though? I have that version as well and no dice.
To me it looks like nobody got it since 2014-02-06. Perhaps there was some minor update or fix around that time?

[Pixel Peeper]

I can't imagine this is the kind of achievement that people get every day, so it may have been disabled a bit later than that... still, this is the kind of information that helps developers narrow things down.

[Dekar]

Your link is the second page, the first page is at http://te4.org/game-statistics/achievement/paradox_full and has people as recent as 2014-03-16 19:04:01 with 1.15 chars. Given that the last patch was around Januar is unlikely that it just broke.
If you earn any of the achievements a second time and still dont get it, then we have a bug that is more than just a fluke that is possible caused by earning both achievements at the same time.

[Mytharox]

Ah ok great, thanks for that! I must have missed that following a google link and seeing ?page=1 in the url ;) . I'll just keep at it then, perhaps I get lucky my next time. I might have a go at it tomorrow and tryout a new build I was thinking about at the same time as well :)