Celia seems unfair.

[Seferoth]

I had 910 hp, a Shielding rune with 360 and she killed me in one blow 6 times in a row...oh and my resistances all were over 40%...was lv 26. On top of that i never even saw her, she was invisible during the whole fight. And yes i did open all the coffins before the fight and won all the enemies that appeared from them with ease. How are you suppose to win that fight against Celia, seems a pretty dumb difficulty spike compared to everything else?

Edit: I also had a very powerful mental/magic Wild Infusion and even with that i could not survive a single attack from her.

[IdealPoint]

She's often a very serious challenge even for late game characters. You just have to wait until you are stronger, higher level.

[Seferoth]

Originally posted by IdealPoint:

She's often a very serious challenge even for late game characters. You just have to wait until you are stronger, higher level.

So she is easier than The Master? I went through all other locations so she was the only big boss before The Master and again how are you suppose to attack Celia if she is invisible during the whole fight. I checked, there was no one in the boss room at any time, she casted that big glyph thingy spell and did about 1500 damage...6 times in a row...while completely invisible. Give me at least a hint how to fight against enemy who is invisible and does over 1k damage with 1 move.

Edit: The more i think about it, the more i am starting to wonder if the game got bugged during the fight. It was bizarre as hell, open the boss door(there is no one there)-take 1 step-die-respawn-take 1 step-die-repeat 4 more times.

[IdealPoint]

No, she is much harder than the master. The master is like the mid game boss. You still have a lot of stuff to do after him.

You can deal with invisibility with AOE attacks, getting see invis up enough to see her, using a dispel effect to get rid of her invis, etc.

She won't do 1k damage to a late game character, more like 4-500. The key thing to understand is that damage is her maximum damage. If have high resists and disable her you can reduce her to doing ~40% of that, and then that will get reduced further by your resists and damage reduction. For example, stun will instantly reduce damage by 50%.

You should deal with the master in his dungeon and follow the quest from there if you have completed Daikara/Old forest/Sand worm lair/Maze.

[Seferoth]

Originally posted by IdealPoint:

No, she is much harder than the master. The master is like the mid game boss. You still have a lot of stuff to do after him.

You can deal with invisibility with AOE attacks, getting see invis up enough to see her, using a dispel effect to get rid of her invis, etc.

She won't do 1k damage to a late game character, more like 4-500. The key thing to understand is that damage is her maximum damage. If have high resists and disable her you can reduce her to doing ~40% of that, and then that will get reduced further by your resists and damage reduction. For example, stun will instantly reduce damage by 50%.

You should deal with the master in his dungeon and follow the quest from there if you have completed Daikara/Old forest/Sand worm lair/Maze.

Well i did follow several "dungeon order" guides and nearly every one of them said to do this place before facing the master. So, lesson learned i guess...

[IdealPoint]

I would say Cilia used to be a little easier, but the Necromancer class was just updated. She got stronger as a result.

I know the guides said to fight her before the master, but I never did that. She was always quite strong.

[zoutzakje]

One more thing to keep in mind. I believe her room acts like a vault, so you can not use any teleport, blink, phase door, dim step, and the likes. If you try to use any of those inside her room, the spell fizzles and your turn is wasted. Gotta use movement speed or something similar to get close to her/away from her.
While she is harder than the master, she is also entirely optional. Most runs I don't even bother with her anymore. Or at least save her for later.

[Seferoth]

I will definitely be skipping her next time...or at least postpone the fight against her for later. Good thing i don't care about Necromancer class.

[gvantass]

Yeah, she's brutal. It isn't just you. If you can down her fast, you don't get so many adds. Also, make sure that you open all of the coffins before you get to her. Yeah, most mobs that come out of them are orange, but if you open the coffins one at a time, you don't necessarily get a mob out of each one... If you leave them closed, you end up getting a mob out of each coffin at your back.

[Seferoth]

Originally posted by gvantass:

Yeah, she's brutal. It isn't just you. If you can down her fast, you don't get so many adds. Also, make sure that you open all of the coffins before you get to her. Yeah, most mobs that come out of them are orange, but if you open the coffins one at a time, you don't necessarily get a mob out of each one... If you leave them closed, you end up getting a mob out of each coffin at your back.

This i knew and i did open all the coffins and beat every elite mob with ease. I hate the fact that you can also get a curse from these damn coffins...dumb rng bs if you ask me.

[voronin_mike]

A common strategy some time before was to enter the dungeon as soon as you gor the quest, let her spawn and then return at about level 20, thus beating her without problems. Not sure whether this works currently. Neither do I remember whether I did this the last time I beat her to open the new Lich upgrade. Though it IS generally advisable to get difficult fights done earlier (if you already have needed skills and equipment) as boss levels are a function of your own ones. Or, of course, much later when you are higher level than maximum for that boss. As for Celia specifically, invisibility can be seen through with either Survival skills or the appropriate Archmage or Chronomancer spells. You could use the Arcane Eye before entering the room, for example. Which is generally recommended before entering any vault though I personally am too lazy for that. ;) Another good thing is the second Higher skill which improves your sight range allowing you to use area spells affecting range beyond 10. Plus, as soon as you detect her, you can use a Dispel. And, while I can't be sure, I strongly suspect that in your case she got Rogue or Shadowblade as a second class, allowing her to cause additional damage against enemies which don't see her. Again, effective detection could prevent it. And grave robbing is a crime - don't be too enthused by it! :))

[gunman]

I beat her at level 29 but it was a close call. I was like on more hit close to death. It was the hardest fight up to this point hands down. Trying to debuff her does not seem to work, as she either resists or removes the debuff instantly. I wasted my first turn trying to silence her. It seems the only working strategy is to do massive damage to her in a short time.

[voronin_mike]

Originally posted by gunman:

I beat her at level 29 but it was a close call. I was like on more hit close to death. It was the hardest fight up to this point hands down. Trying to debuff her does not seem to work, as she either resists or removes the debuff instantly. I wasted my first turn trying to silence her. It seems the only working strategy is to do massive damage to her in a short time.

Silence generally works, but you may check what her saves are and whether she has resists to things like that. Again, it's possible if she has some additional classes. Removes are of course also possible - bosses can have runes, etc. And the strategy you use may vary - and also depends on your class. Sawbutcher can most probably just burst kill her. Necromancer or Corruptor should be more oriented on outlasting her. Same with Oozemancer.

[gunman]

I am currently playing a Sun Paladin in roguelike. Just reached level 40 and got to the portal to the far east. I died once because I opened every vault in Dreadfell and an overpowered dragon kicked my ass. I used the Blood of Life and fled. Apart from that, Celia was the hardest fight until now. I still have the Ring of the Dead and I plan to take the resurrection as undead prodigy, which should allow me 2 more deaths.

[SpiralRazor]

Hmm...by lvl 26 you should be better equipped...usually i dumpster her stats and if im playing a character that cant do a significant amount of debuffs, i just open the coffins and leave her.

[mjkittredge]

This is why see invisible/stealth stat is so critically important. In addition to several talents that increase it, lites often provide a bonus too.
Take note of the damage types that are hurting the most, and stockpile gear that gives resistances so you can max it at 70. You might even find gear with wards that block x amount of instances of that damage type. Or items that give you a chance to avoid all damage.
There are also several items that give affinity so you heal when taking damage from those sources.
Finally theres flat damage resistance from torques, body armors and talents.