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However you'll want to pay attention to the Mind/WillCunning Scaling as some of them may provide great Effects but have horrible Scaling. Generally you won't have to worry about the Raw Stats of a Mindstar. It's the added Effects like gaining HP Regen, Saves, etc. Mindstars are pretty crazy with the kind of stuff you can get on them. Also note if they are part of a set; you should keep those handy even if their Stats suck. If you find a counterpart Mindstar the Set Bonuses can be crazy.
You should almost always try to Dual Wield Mindstars IMO. However that is only if you go Psiblades. If you don't go Psiblades you should really consider not using Mindstars at all; unless you are a pure Caster type Build. Like a Breath Wyrmic, then you can afford to pass on Psiblades since all of your Damage is coming from your Talents and not actual attacks.
As for: Why to use Mindstars? They can be really powerful. My favorite Build is a Wyrmic with Psiblades. It's really slow/hard Early-Game but once you start hitting Mid-Game you can become a powerhouse. There are just sooo many Ego combinations Mindstars can have that really pump up your Build. I've had pairs that individually increase my Will by ~12 each; then have a Set Bonus that increased my Will by an additional ~8 thereby giving me +20 Will on top of 5 other Effects.
With all the said, IMO, Mindstars are sort of a gamble. They aren't nearly as reliable as standard weapons. You also can't really use them for other Skills either. Iirc if you get something like Stunning Blow Talent off an Escort you can't use a Psiblade or Mindstar to use it.
TLDR: IMO, Mindstars are a gamble and should be an "All in" kind of thing to maximize their use. They can get to be extremely powerful but are unreliable. Most other Weapon types are not only more reliable but more powerful. However Mindstars can Augment your Build significantly better than the other Weapons. Basically if you aren't going to go Psiblades or you have a lot of Breath/Spell Talents; don't bother using Mindstars.
Though take my advice with a grain of mistrust. It's been a few months since I've played a Mindstar Build. My first Nightmare Victory was a Psiblade Wyrmic but that was over a year ago lol.
if you really want a class that can use mindstars, id recommend picking any other wilder (summoner/ooze both want wil/cun/mindpower), doomed (though they have their own mindstar related tree that doesn't work with psiblades, pick one) or either psionic class (solipsist is a mindcaster, mindslayer is very competent with psiblade melee but needs to invest in conventional/exotic weapons in order to make their TK slot usable.)
bonus mention to psyshot from the DLC since they use mindstar offhands but no psiblades
what you're looking from mindstars is high mindpower/willpower/cunning boosts since those get scaled up hugely by psiblades, and you also want your 2 mindstars to both be the same damage type usually (whichever of nature/mind you stack higher). mindstar tier is by far the most important thing though and you should use a higher tier mindstar unless you have an absurdly strong randart, since stat mods go up with tier.
egos to look out for on mindstars are the ones that give lifeleech, burrow talent, +damage/resist penetration for your main elements and maybe equilibrium-on-hit if you're a mindslayer or solipsist
Uhm, what? This is highly dependant on your Wyrmic Build. A ton of the Wyrmic's Talents are Wild-Gifts and Scale with Mindpower, Willpower or Strength. Granted a lot of them Scale more with STR iirc than Will ... but a bunch only scale with Mindpower.
Psiblades' extra Will/MND scaling would go hand and hand with Wyrmic Builds.
The only time you wouldn't go Will/MND would be Strikes or Breath Wyrmics since STR is king and you are only getting Will so you can level Talents. That's when going full 2hander and STR maxing is king.
As for a Staff Wyrmic - That's typical Archmage shenanigans all over again. Much like going Anti-Mage with an Archmage. Not something a newbie should worry about. Hell even experienced players shouldn't worry about it unless they are looking for a challenge/madness builds.
Thanks, It will be helpful
Staff wyrmic is a gimmick build that no one's actually won but theoretically can do very high damage through acid groove tinkers, acid damage stacking, shortstaff + bottom half of telos offhand and Dissolve - i merely mentioned it because it actually has synergy compared to ms and most likely it's also inferior to 2H. (E: staff wyrmic got debunked. it's not good)
Psiblades leaves you with only one stun, tornado, with horrible uptime compared to the 100% of stunning blow (or shield pummel but lol), forces you to scum for escorts, does worse damage than 2H with the many wyrmic talents that scale off weapon damage and you can't use psiblades with a shield like you could a two-hander unless you want to completely ♥♥♥♥ your damage output. Putting prodigies into the equation makes this even worse since legacy of the naloren gives you a completely absurd amount of damage and phys power to make your stuns, blinds from Dissolve etc land while even a completely ridiculous set of randart mindstars can't compare to the raw damage output even if they have a bunch of sidegrades on them.
Uhh on Normal and Nightmare those are hardly "Useless". Devouring Flames gets huge AoE while leeching damage and healing you per turn. Icy Skin is "meh" but the added Armor is always helpful especially when you have high Hardiness. Static Field scales off MD; which deals a % of target's Total Life. Granted it'll deal less to Bosses and Uniques. Then you got Acid Spray can Disarm, turn into a Beam and raises Mindpower per point. Corrosive Mist is a MD DoT that lowers enemy's Accuracy, Armor and Defense based on MD. Then you got Fungus so you can heal while you heal ...
Plus almost every single Wyrmic ability scales with Weapon Damage. Go Psiblades to massively increase Mindstar Scaling and you WD should be pretty good; which will just makes your WD Talents even more powerful. Granted you probably won't get the same returns as a Unique 2hander or whatnot.
Mindstars do have synergy since most skills use WD. The problem is you need Psiblades to make use of that. Whereas if you go 2H you got the synergy right out the gate. The problem with 2H builds is you are losing overall Def/Mitigation and Utility ... since you'll be maxing STR and relying on Stat Buff gear for Will to unlock Talents.
Yeah, you'll only get 1 Stun effectively. But then you aren't building for Stuns since you'll be going Bursts, DoT and Mitigation. You don't really need to scum for Escorts unless you want to Min/Max. Almost everything does less damage than a 2H; that's why 2H sacrifice Utility/Def. You can use a Shield with Psiblades. You don't need to Dual Mindstars to have Psiblades up. It's just beneficial to Dual Psiblades for the Sets ... unless you find a Self Set and bind it to 1 Mindstar; which is pretty rare. You also can't use a Shield with a 2H unless you are an Ogre ... which why would you Ogre Wyrmic when other classes are much better?
Yes let's compare an OP Prodigy and 2H Unique that you only get ~Mid - Late Game to everything else. *Rolls Eyes* Grabbing Superpower, since you are doing STR/Will anyway will give you a huge boost in MD and WD. Then you could grab Mental Tyranny to further increase MD and WD.
Granted with Legacy you could afford to grab other stuff that could be just as useful or otherwise increase your Damage Output. However a 2H build going Naloren would need to fish for Exotic Wep. Mastery anyway and go "All in" for that.
As I said before it all depends on your Build. Are there better Wyrmic Builds than Psiblades? Arguably; Yes. Much like for every Class. Is a Psiblade Wyrmic crap? No. You can easily clear Normal Difficulty and, if you build/play well, Nightmare too. Don't mistake me saying Wyrmic Psiblades is powerful for "2H Wyrmic is inferior".
TLDR: Wyrmic Psiblades is a strong build for Normal and Nightmare. A 2H Wyrmic that goes Legacy(because that's pretty much what you'd have to go) is just as strong; if not stronger. TBH, I think a 2H Legacy Wyrmic is the only Build that can clear Insane/Madness. Tried Psiblades and consistently RIP to the Prides.
this is not a point in favor of mindstars given that 2h will have 120% str mods and 10 times the base power
and can be used with a shield. this is the really important part. assault is so huge for damage until you get consistent crit rate it's untrue
are you literally suggesting to use a prodigy that reduces your total damage output (mental tyranny) over flexible combat, naloren, arcane might (actually very good for all melee classes, and likely to significantly impact statuses/damage way more than superpower) or cauterize/dwill which literally let you ignore entire parts of the game
naloren doesnt need fishing for EWM contrary to popular belief since once you get the prodigy you can just get the points even without getting it from an escort. you might have to suffer with...shocking 3 points in weapon mastery for a while, oh no.
And now for the comedy ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ gold. I had to show the discord and ingame chat this to make sense of it because you have no idea what you're trying to say at all.
do you even know what madness is? it's not a difficulty that's intended to be winnable, especially not by ♥♥♥♥ tier classes like wyrmic
don't talk about things that you have no idea about.
e: lmao ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ i found your online profile and you dont even have an AoA win let alone an insane one. git gud
Really dude? That's not even me because I had ToME prior to Steam. My ToME account is different. Kinda like how there is no "stær" in the Vault; the closest is someone named DaFalk. Which, judging by your previous Steam Profile Names; I'd assume is you. But that can't be true since whoever DaFalk is; he hasn't won a game yet sadly. Oh btw, since you lack reading comprehension; by "a 2H Legacy Wyrmic is the only Build that can clear Insane/Madness" I was referring to Legacy Wyrmic being the only Wyrmic Build that could clear it. Not the only Build that can clear Insane/Madness.
Oh, regarding Prodigies ... I was talking specifically about increasing your WD and MD not "You should get X". Obviously DWill is something you should really consider, unless getting DeBuffed isn't really an issue due to Talents/Infusions *cough* on Normal *cough*. And Arcane Might? Really? Yeah let's tell a Psiblade Wyrmic or a Class that uses STR/Will as Primaries to get a Magic and Spellpower related Talent so they can get extra Phys Power off of their Spellpower. Yeah because most Wyrmic Builds are totally going to use Magic! (Though if you are going Undead Aspect; totally get Arcane Might)
So basically this whole time you're just a Troll(Or you're lashing out cuz you Ripped on a Nightmare run or something) wanting to wave around their Epeen over a game. Got it.
OP asked a question; I answered it. Psiblades on Wyrmic is a solid Build for Normal and Nightmare; if you are good. Instead of being civil you decided to wave your Epeen around. I tried being nice and discussing things with you ... which is why I kept saying "It depends on Build" and to a further extent Difficulty. I never said Psiblade Wyrmic was superior. But do go on waving that Epeen of yours making assumptions over people who disagree with you. Top Form that, real classy.
TLDR: I tried being civil and having a discussion. You'd rather make wild assumptions, misunderstand what I'm saying ... then try to Flamebait. Really? Not only that but you'd attempt to "find me" (Wrong dude btw) in the Character Vault and accuse me of being bad simply because I disagree with you? Not to mention try to slander me(Nice job screwing over some random dude that happen to use my Steam Name) using In-Game Chat? Seriously? I have no intention of De-railing this topic with your attempted bait and flame. OP got an answer. Far as I'm concerned this Discussion is over now.
I said you could use a shield, not that you should lol. (You'll still turn the 1 Mindstar into a Psiblade and gain the bonuses from Psiblades. You won't be able to use the Psiblade Talents though iirc.) That's why I said earlier; Psiblades is sorta like a Gamble. You either go "All-in" for it and Dual Wield or you don't go Psiblades/Mindstars at all.
Don't misunderstand me saying you can do something for me saying you should do something. OP didn't mention Difficulty so I figured he was only talking about Normal. If he brought up Nightmare or Insane I'd be answering totally differently. But hey, what do I know? I totally told people to use a Shield and Mindstar, go Psiblade Wyrmic and stomp Madness! :P