Crash fixed - Reverted AMD drivers to 22.x instead of current 24.x

[Parthon]

So I couldn't run the game, tried new drivers, a bunch of options, nothing worked.

I knew the demo used to work so I figured I would revert my drivers to the older version, crash fixed.

The crash would happen as soon after the menus, when the game would start playing. Either a driver bug, or the game was losing the context, or the double buffering was failing, but was so consistantly as soon as the game was "moving" it would crash, but never in the menus, even when I opened the demo, entered the game, "PLEASE BUY THE FULL GAME" Click okay: crash.

It's also not a gameplay crash, because it didn't hang, the graphics card would reset and I would get an AMD report window.

I hopw if other people are having this problem on AMD that reverting their driver to 22.x helps, and maybe helps the dev figure out why the new drivers are broken for Moose Miners.

[LingonStudios]

That is good to know. Thank you for writing this, then I can redirect people here if they have the crash with the amd driver. I have had issues with the amd drivers for the demo from some people before as well. The unfortunate thing is that my amd test machine that I got with an Radeon RX 560 runs it fine with no issues both an earlier driver and now on the latest one I tried installing today. And I got it mainly just so I could try to see if I could figure out what part of the code is causing the driver crash since then maybe I can find a way to work around the crash.

Googling around it seems AMD drivers quite often break certain OpenGL apps and games which is a shame. I guess it is a bad idea to use OpenGL nowadays.

[Gory]

Exactly the same thing happens for me.

Some Details:
AMD Software: 24.2.1
GPU: AMD RX 5700 XT

Edit: Updated AMD drivers to 24.4.1 and it works now. worked for a minute of gameplay.
Another edit: Can confirm downgrading works. Using version 22.11.2 now

[Parthon]

Originally posted by Gory:

Exactly the same thing happens for me.

Some Details:
AMD Software: 24.2.1
GPU: AMD RX 5700 XT

Edit: Updated AMD drivers to 24.4.1 and it works now.

So confusing, I just went to 24.4.1 and they didn't work, but 22.1.1 works.

I'll try the new new driver later lol.

[Ļeroy jenkins]

I'm running 24.4.1 with no issues. 8 ish hours on the demo and 3 so far on full release.
GPU: 6900 XT
CPU: 5950X

[Parthon]

Oh right I should list that too, yeah I'm on a
Ryzen 7 3800
Radeon 5700

I'll try the 24.4.1 again, but not today!

[J4ck B4rj0w]

The same, I Crash too, after 3-5sec... (do that already on Demo)

AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT
AMD Ryzen 5 3600XT

With 24.4.1

I hope will be fix, or if someone find a solution please dont forgot post here thx (without downgraded), i will try another day

[Roy Munson]

So your fix is that we should all revert our drivers so your obviously broken game can work? ♥♥♥♥ the rest of the games I play?

[LingonStudios]

Originally posted by Roy Munson:

So your fix is that we should all revert our drivers so your obviously broken game can work? ♥♥♥♥ the rest of the games I play?

For now that is the fix that is available. I will look more into it to see if I can find a workaround for the crash. But the matter of fact is that the crash happens in AMDs driver and it seems they regularly screw up their OpenGL drivers since searching on the crash brings up a lot posts on AMD forums of people having issues with various different OpenGL applications on a lot of different AMD drivers. But please send any crash reports you get from the crash as described here https://steamcommunity.com/app/2591410/discussions/0/4038104984936396794/ and maybe I can figure out a what part is triggering the driver crash and workaround. As I mentioned I can't reproduce the issue on my own AMD test machine since it has run the game with no issues on all the different driver versions I have tried. So it seems to be only specific AMD GPUs that get the crash as well

[Roy Munson]

enough said, I'll refund.

[noxiousdog]

When I start the game it just goes to a yellow screen and nothing changes.
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 - 31.0.15.3640

[Anosi]

CPU: Ryzen 9 5900X
GPU: 5700 XT

Crashes on AMD Version 24.4.1 and 24.2.1. Works fine with 22.11.2

[Parthon]

Originally posted by Roy Munson:

enough said, I'll refund.

Yeah, digging around a lot, ALL opengl games crash on 24..x.x for the 5x00 series of cards. AMD screwd up, not the dev.

Dev: Is there a way to add vulkan as an option, or are the APIs just completely different? I used to be an opengl programmer myself and I'm thinking this would require a whole rewrite, then the answer would be no. :P

[thenewme29]

Same issue here. Crashed the driver hard, total lock up till amd reloads. Just tried the demo instead of buying luckily. Only happens after trying to start a game. The outside menus are fine for me. Tried blank save a, crashed. Tried black save b, crashed. This game is right up my miner addiction alley too, good luck on fixing.

DC

[LingonStudios]

Originally posted by Parthon:

Originally posted by Roy Munson:

enough said, I'll refund.

Yeah, digging around a lot, ALL opengl games crash on 24..x.x for the 5x00 series of cards. AMD screwd up, not the dev.

Dev: Is there a way to add vulkan as an option, or are the APIs just completely different? I used to be an opengl programmer myself and I'm thinking this would require a whole rewrite, then the answer would be no. :P

yeah switching api would require quite a lot of work. Especially to something like Vulkan since that is an api that completely different in how it works being much more low level and that. I have though about porting the renderer to DX11 though since that would be quite similar to OpenGL and I have pretty much the same amount of experience with DX11 as I do with OpenGL. It seems like OpenGL is mostly an afterthought for the GPU vendors (at least for AMD) nowadays, which is a shame since even if most newer game won't use OpenGL this will mean that quite a lot of older games will stop working for people.

But porting the renderer would take time that could be spent on making new content and since I am doing this solo I can only working on one thing means the other things get's done later.

I think we just need to hope that AMD fixes their driver for the next version.

[gaz_ibiza07]

Just bought the game, disappointed get a yellow screen. Not clued up enough about pcs to change any settings, help would be appreciated to let me play this game. Waited all day to get on and this happens!