Dominions 4

Dominions 4

Teralitha Jul 21, 2017 @ 6:27pm
Is There A Way To Raise Priest Levels?
I havent seen priest commander ever go up in priest level and I see no way to raise it like with empowerment.
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Rope Man Jul 21, 2017 @ 6:28pm 
communions, unique items (construction 8), and prophetization
Teralitha Jul 21, 2017 @ 6:30pm 
Originally posted by Batrachian Phantom:
communions, unique items (construction 8), and prophetization

So no permanent way the same way empowerment works?
Last edited by Teralitha; Jul 21, 2017 @ 6:30pm
No.
boozermonkey Jul 21, 2017 @ 6:36pm 
Well, I guess some nations have an exploit in that regard - namely Nazca.

1. Prophetize an Inca
2. Suicide him
3. Prophetize his mummy

I think that makes an H5 prophet in theory.
Staythecourse Jul 21, 2017 @ 6:56pm 
Originally posted by boozermonkey:
Well, I guess some nations have an exploit in that regard - namely Nazca.

1. Prophetize an Inca
2. Suicide him
3. Prophetize his mummy

I think that makes an H5 prophet in theory.

Please do not spread misinformation by theorycrafting without testing. Nazca mummification does not kill off the prophet, and thus none of that is possible.

What is theoretically possible, though not practically, is getting and keeping your (living) prophet on the Hall of Fame until you have Enchantment 7. Then suicide him such that he actually dies. At this point, he can be brought back as a mummy through the spell Ritual of Rebirth, and reprophetized after the necessary 6 month wait.
crawlers Jul 21, 2017 @ 7:38pm 
A few extremely rare events can increase priest levels, such as some in the demon event chains (which often send a demon assassin, so unless your priest is a thug he will die from it).
Teralitha Jul 22, 2017 @ 4:45am 
Well that pretty sad then. Because it seems that some nations troops are designed to(Or only become useful with high level priest buffs) benefit from the high level priest spells but never can because its impossible to get those high level priests and therefore those troops always suck at what they specialize in.
Last edited by Teralitha; Jul 22, 2017 @ 4:46am
Originally posted by Teralitha:
Well that pretty sad then. Because it seems that some nations troops are designed to benefit from the high level priest spells but never can because its impossible to get those high level priests and therefore those troops always suck at what they specialize in.

I... what? No.

The only priest spell that matters (aside from undead buffs) is Bless. Any H1 priest can cast that. Use multiple if you must.
Teralitha Jul 22, 2017 @ 4:47am 
Originally posted by ExasperatedCultist:
Originally posted by Teralitha:
Well that pretty sad then. Because it seems that some nations troops are designed to benefit from the high level priest spells but never can because its impossible to get those high level priests and therefore those troops always suck at what they specialize in.

I... what? No.

The only priest spell that matters (aside from undead buffs) is Bless. Any H1 priest can cast that. Use multiple if you must.

Bless only works on sacred troops. There are not very many sacred troops. let me give you an example...

Kailasa, the monkey people in the early age. They have decent sacred troops and they are not too expensive, but... they have zero protection and die when sneezed at. This makes the "melee" ones useless. Then you have the archers. Dont really need protection but the monkey archers outperform them so no reason to bother getting them. Most of the monkey units have ranged attacks but their precision is terrible. It could be good, if you had a level 4 priest use their level 4 bless, AND if you have a pretender with very high air magic. Without that, monkeys become useless later in game. They are only useful in the beginning. After that, all monkey units become fodder. I could replace them with summoned monsters, but only til I use up all my gems. The only other option would be to have an army of commanders only. Thats very expensive.
Last edited by Teralitha; Jul 22, 2017 @ 4:53am
Originally posted by Teralitha:
Bless only works on sacred troops. There are not very many sacred troops.

I know. Other priest spells - aside from the national undead buffs - don't matter. They're irrelevant.
Sy Jul 22, 2017 @ 4:57am 
Nonsacred units can never be blessed regardless of holy levels. Fanaticism is a battlefield wide Morale boost spell.
Last edited by Sy; Jul 22, 2017 @ 4:58am
Teralitha Jul 22, 2017 @ 4:59am 
Originally posted by Sy:
Nonsacred units can never be blessed regardless of holy levels. Fanaticism is a battlefield wide Morale boost spell.

Oh yeah, misread it. nevermind.... those poor monkeys.
Last edited by Teralitha; Jul 22, 2017 @ 4:59am
Red_Rob Jul 22, 2017 @ 5:25am 
Originally posted by Teralitha:
Kailasa, the monkey people in the early age. They have decent sacred troops and they are not too expensive, but... they have zero protection and die when sneezed at. This makes the "melee" ones useless.

Did you see they have Awe? Enemies have to pass a morale check to attack them, which makes them surprisingly hardy in combat against normal troops. Against elite enemies with high morale they don't do so well though.
Teralitha Jul 22, 2017 @ 5:29am 
Originally posted by Red_Rob:
Originally posted by Teralitha:
Kailasa, the monkey people in the early age. They have decent sacred troops and they are not too expensive, but... they have zero protection and die when sneezed at. This makes the "melee" ones useless.

Against elite enemies with high morale they don't do so well though.

Yes, thats why I said they are only useful in the beginning. Once the enemy starts using better troops its game over for the monkeys... Or if I happen to start next to the giants... forget it.
Last edited by Teralitha; Jul 22, 2017 @ 5:30am
DasaKamov Jul 22, 2017 @ 6:17am 
Kailasa (and the other monkey nations) have TONS of ways to buff their troops, as their nations specialize in Earth, Water, Nature and Astral magic. Having base 0 Protection is not a concern when you're a Stoneskinned, Enlarged, Ethereal, Lucky, Regenerating, Quickened celestial being that *also* has Awe. ;)
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