5 HOURS OF GAMEPLAY WTF?

[neur0katharsis]

I want my money back

[PandaRED]

Originally posted by Reksel:

Originally posted by ElokoMs:

20 years ago I needed more time to finish the SP of shooters than to finish most of the RPGs nowadays.

You only need an hour or 2 to complete Doom.

On subsequent playthroughs, yes. The very first time through? Not so much.

But the point that 20 years ago you didn't get 5 hours of content for a full priced game is asinine. The free portion of shareware adventure games often gave a few hours worth of gameplay.

But for every game that you can name that had less content, someone familiar with games from the time period could name ten that you could spend tens of hours on.

[The Judge]

Originally posted by Panda:

Originally posted by Reksel:

You only need an hour or 2 to complete Doom.

On subsequent playthroughs, yes. The very first time through? Not so much.

But the point that 20 years ago you didn't get 5 hours of content for a full priced game is asinine. The free portion of shareware adventure games often gave a few hours worth of gameplay.

But for every game that you can name that had less content, someone familiar with games from the time period could name ten that you could spend tens of hours on.

So we should stop complaining about gametime as games always have been either long or short and that is not a sign of quality?Or that everything was better in the good old days...

YOu know what,if that is what you wanted to say,I would sign that!

[ProximateTen]

Whenever I look at game length vs price I look at how much it would cost me for say, a movie. Did I get more entertainment thna a 2 hr movie? In most cases this is yes, then the game was value for money compared to other entertainment options.

Yes, shooters of old, and even RPGs of old took ages to complete. Most shooters took ages not because they were long but because they were punishingly difficult. I spent hours playing Project X on the Amiga and never finished it. I spent 30 minutes playing Rolling Thunder on the spectrum and got through it. I still played it time and time again because it was FUN. I ENJOYED the game. This is the key to any game. Is it RUN and do players ENJOY it. Not length, not content, not graphics.

So, instead of worrying about length, I will ask this. Is this game FUN to play*? Did you ENJOY playing it*? Would you play it again because of this? If so, it's great value for money.

* these are not rhetorical questions. Please provide your feedback on these 2 things, to me directly if you wish.

[SLAVA UKRAINI]

Originally posted by BONKERS:

5 hours is too little? You'd be lucky to see a full price game 20 years ago that had that much content

On consoles maybe, not PC. Most PC games lasted me well over 20 hours and some 100s (Civilization, Sim City, Red Alert, etc.)

[Wabbit Gone Bad]

Originally posted by Reksel:

Originally posted by ElokoMs:

20 years ago I needed more time to finish the SP of shooters than to finish most of the RPGs nowadays.

You only need an hour or 2 to complete Doom.

wow.. just wow.. curent speedruns for the game, which i might add skip 95% of the content, are about 35 minutes.. when it was out the "world record" speed run was 1 hour 32 minutes, again skipping 90% of the game.. starting and getting to the last level in Oblivion can be done in 17 minutes.. but you didnt play the game. Reviews of doom (when it was released) listed game play of about 20 hours to complete.. the demo.. maybe 4-5.. again, when it was released, now that people klnow every attack, have mastered keyboard/mouse Yes, it can be done much faster. But thats like saying I read a book becuase you skipped 900 pages and read the last 3 and know how it ends..

Old school games lasted much longer than most new ones.. there is hardly a FPS made right now that the sp lasts 6 hours.. and (wont name names) several where you have friendly AI, you can complete whole levels without shooting.. (hint youtube "no shots fired") sorry.. saying old games had no content if you PLAYED the game is false..

[AbyssalZombie]

I beat the game in 3 hours.. I might go back and replay it finish up achievements about it.

[PureRok]

Originally posted by augieg:

I had 19 hours booked after completing, and played through at a reasonable pace. 5 hours seems crazy fast.

How did you manage this? I finished the game in 4 hours (according to Steam), and I didn't rush. Hell, I even had to redo some parts because of falling to my death (thanks camera!). I guess if you mean "completing" as in 100% (all achievements, finished both difficulties, etc.), then... 19 hours still seems like a long time.

[󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡]

Shouldn't have buy this piece of crap in the first place. You deserve what you get :)

[augieg]

LOL, it is kind of a POC, but it was sorta fun at the same time. My 19 hour play time probably included some AFK time, but that is what my steam played hours show. If you really were able to burn through the game in 4 hours, then I don't know what to say. Maybe I'm just slow.

[Zorop]

Anyone played FASTER THAN LIGHT around here? ♥♥♥♥ graphics, GREAT GAME PLAY, i have a lot of hours in it. This game was about 1$ an hour for me got it on sale and it was totaly worth it.

[Spag Zonkman]

lol at people defending the game length and acting lile "5 hours" is acceptable in this modern era of gaming, especially for a "roleplaying game". Enjoy living in your personal little fantasy world where you actually believe the crap you spew. The rest of us will continue to enjoy laughing at you.

[s2banks]

Originally posted by mconway001:

Originally posted by BONKERS:

5 hours is too little? You'd be lucky to see a full price game 20 years ago that had that much content

This is a joke right? Wing Commander 3, Elder Scrolls: Arena, Warcraft: Humans and Orcs, System Shock, Mech Warrior 2, Dune 2, Star Wars Dark Forces, Command and Conquer. Those are just the good ones I could think of from 94-95. All should give you more than 5 hours to complete.

Final Fantasy VI, A Link to the Past, Super Metroid, Breath of Fire... There are lots :D (To list some console games)

[SLAVA UKRAINI]

I think some people are still working on their first walkthrough of ES: Arena that they started 20 years ago.

[BONKERS]

Those games are the Exceptions. Not the rule.

For every one of those games, there are 10 more that are insanely short.


Watch any episode of Game Center CX and see how short almost every game is. But it takes a long time to beat because Arino Sucks at games or because of fake difficulty.

[SLAVA UKRAINI]

Oh yeah? So why can't you name examples of non-console games that were really short? People from the other side of the argument have given you plenty of examples. The only game people have named is Doom, probably because they were thinking of the first (free) episode. Wolfenstein 3D and Doom were released with one episode as shareware, the entire game is a lot longer. And even then the first episode of Wolfenstein 3D took me over 5 hours back in the day.