PSVR2 is so much better than Quest 3 its not even funny....

[mckracken]

I have compared them:
Q3 colors are DULL, the contrast is POOR, the blacks are milky GREY not black....
It is shocking (no exaggeration) how much richer AND brighter the image from OLED is.
PSVR2 has less corner sharpness but its not really something where you go wow thats much better on the Q3, when you compare them. Besides your vision will be focused in the center area, so this is not really a strength for the Q3.

Lastly i consider going wireless not a plus, because of latency, compression artifacts and even WORSE black levels. Besides only newbies do room scale, you will get even tired of standing when you have longer game sessions. Im using a pulley for the cable, for me that is a non issue.

[TheCrazedEB]

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Quest 3 has the following limitations

* LCD - color bleed, back lighting - means no true blacks
* Fixed Foveated Rendering - means the edges will be lower res than the middle bc no eye tracking
* No direct PC connection - means latency and compression from PC
* Battery - limits play length
* No headset haptics
* No adaptive triggers
* No headband - terrible headstrap that is a joke really

If you want to replace your mobile phone, than sure get a quest.

However if you want the best gaming headset, than PSVR2 is it.

Fresnel lenses are good especially when paired with OLED.

what about the immersion breaking mura?

I played RE7 and in the darkest rooms, you can see it but its not OMG its so distracting. If you focus on it and not the game then yeah its annoying. To me I HATE film grain with a passion in flat games. But its case by case in games of it being tolerable or outright in your face bad.

[Kondiq]

Diposting pertama kali oleh mckracken:

i had a g2. its really only sharp in the center. it gets blurry fast. Psvr2 is much better here.
Other than that, the LCD was pretty good in terms of colors and blacks. Better than the q3 for sure.

The sweetspot is a bit bigger with one part of the face gasket removed if you have V2 version. With the default face gasket in V1 it's pretty small.

[mckracken]

i had the v2 and removed the face insert. I guess it would have been better, but you dont really notice it as such. One of the reasons why i sold it.

[Tino]

The comparison is very undifferentiated. I have both headsets and love both headsets. The great black levels, colors and high brightness are undisputed and make the PSVR2 a good choice if you want to enjoy these high contrasts and rich and natural colors. For example, UEVR games like Ace Combat 7, Cygni or Tony Hawk's Pro 1+2 appear "sunny", more vivid.

That's just the impression IF you were able to deal with the many cables (the PSVR2 can have up to three connections on the PC), the pitfalls during installation and configuration. If you ignore the annoying cable, which is always annoying without cable management, even when you're just sitting at your desk. If you ignore the clunky, large controllers that e.g. make reloading weapons difficult in some games and have limited battery life, no comparison to using a Quest 3 for days and simply swapping batteries. If you ignore the small sweet spot and the much longer time to set up the perfect view. If you ignore the Mura strongly visible in darker areas. If you ignore the mobile ecosystem with hundreds of Quest games. And that's not all the negative points, e.g. the many frustrated users who are currently unable to use the headset despite the recommended dongle because controllers keep failing.

By the way, a correct and good WiFi configuration has very low latencies and compression is virtually no longer visible via Virtual Desktop with AV1 Codec. I played MSFS 2020 or Atomic Heart, very detailed games with no visible compression artifacts. As always with the PC, it depends on many variables such as routers, distances, interfering devices, PC performance and the correct configuration.

Other troll comments here suggest that these people have never actually used a Quest 3 on the PC.

From my point of view, who also uses a Quest 3, the PSVR2 is a good addition to experience these bright colors in certain games, as a native PCVR headset with DP 1.4 and currently still some software quirks, but cannot replace the great wireless experience. Both have advantages and disadvantages. A game like Cygni with UEVR for example looks gorgeous in the PSVR2! Bright glowing lasers and explosions in vivid colors, more 3d depth because of the nice black levels. That's amazing about the PSVR2 and for me the main reason to enjoy the PSVR2, but else there is a lot criticism with the device and not just good and fine and happiness.

[grzegorz77]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Tino:

The comparison is very undifferentiated. I have both headsets and love both headsets. The great black levels, colors and high brightness are undisputed and make the PSVR2 a good choice if you want to enjoy these high contrasts and rich and natural colors. For example, UEVR games like Ace Combat 7, Cygni or Tony Hawk's Pro 1+2 appear "sunny", more vivid.

That's just the impression IF you were able to deal with the many cables (the PSVR2 can have up to three connections on the PC), the pitfalls during installation and configuration. If you ignore the annoying cable, which is always annoying without cable management, even when you're just sitting at your desk. If you ignore the clunky, large controllers that e.g. make reloading weapons difficult in some games and have limited battery life, no comparison to using a Quest 3 for days and simply swapping batteries. If you ignore the small sweet spot and the much longer time to set up the perfect view. If you ignore the Mura strongly visible in darker areas. If you ignore the mobile ecosystem with hundreds of Quest games. And that's not all the negative points, e.g. the many frustrated users who are currently unable to use the headset despite the recommended dongle because controllers keep failing.

By the way, a correct and good WiFi configuration has very low latencies and compression is virtually no longer visible via Virtual Desktop with AV1 Codec. I played MSFS 2020 or Atomic Heart, very detailed games with no visible compression artifacts. As always with the PC, it depends on many variables such as routers, distances, interfering devices, PC performance and the correct configuration.

Other troll comments here suggest that these people have never actually used a Quest 3 on the PC.

From my point of view, who also uses a Quest 3, the PSVR2 is a good addition to experience these bright colors in certain games, as a native PCVR headset with DP 1.4 and currently still some software quirks, but cannot replace the great wireless experience. Both have advantages and disadvantages. A game like Cygni with UEVR for example looks gorgeous in the PSVR2! Bright glowing lasers and explosions in vivid colors, more 3d depth because of the nice black levels. That's amazing about the PSVR2 and for me the main reason to enjoy the PSVR2, but else there is a lot criticism with the device and not just good and fine and happiness.

Both PS VR2 and Quest 3 have their advantages.

But I see logical errors or inconsistency in your speech.

Ps vr 2 has 3 short cables but only one long one goes to the set, this is standard in many vr headsets.
The Quest 3 has replaceable AA batteries in the controllers, which is great. But it has a serious problem with the battery of the vr headset.
Many people have a problem connecting psvr 2 controllers to pc. But even more people have trouble connecting the quest 3 to pc.
Correct hardware and software configuration of wifi gives good results for quest 3. Just like the correct hardware and software configuration of Bluetooth gives good results for ps vr 2.
MSFS 2020 is certainly fun on quest 3, but for sure flying at night is much better on ps vr2.
Many, as you call it, "trolls" have never used quest 3 on pc, just as many have never used ps vr2 on pc.
Ps vr2 software certainly has some shortcomings, but it is available for a week. The software for quest 3 has had a lot of time to fix bugs, but the steam vr section still points out problems. Each new quest3 firmware is a wave of new problems.
You point to a library of phone vr games, but you forgot to mention the library of great AAA games in the sony store.

I totally understand that you were trying to keep your answer short, just as I did.
But let's try to see the pros and cons of both sets.

In my opinion, as a standalone travel set, quest 3 wins.
As a home vr headset, with a PC (not a laptop), ps vr2 wins.
The rest is a matter of preference as to what games you will play and what you care about most.

[mckracken]

if you prefer the quest 3, you are probably not a real gamer.....
but a casual:
see the all the phone "experiences". I actually think BEAT SABER is not a game.
but PISTOL WHIP is.

[pollster]

My 2 cents. I have both a Q3 and PSVR2. I like them equally for different reasons. an example would be pistol whip, have it on both and prefer to play it on the psvr2 due to how the colours pop. However, i annoyed the the PSVR2 version than with the Q3 version due to the headset shifting about and loosing focus with activity. Q3 dosen't suffer from this, always clear and sharp.

[Tino]

„3 cables“ was meant as „3 ports“ including a BT dongle if you’re unlucky. In my case it worked with the internal BT 5, else I had returned the whole package including separate DP cable and adapter I bought for it.

[Ninja Eule]

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The state of VR is really sad honestly, when it was first announced i'd thought there be a ton of different choices for fair prices by now meanwhile we're stuck with 5 year old $1000 Index (no doubt the best and only choice if you're willing to pay up for it), random no name chinese crap or selling your soul to facebook (blows my mind how this is the most popular option) also not to mention post-Quest every new VR app is targeting the garbage built-in hardware of the Quest and other clones, there are no PC-first headsets or apps anymore for VR because suckerberg had to come in to ♥♥♥♥ it all up and everyone fell for it. Nobody is going to walk around with VR on like its nothing, if you actually believe or want that to happen just seek help immediately.
I do not want to pay more than $500 for the headset, I do not want half of that cost to be wasted on some ♥♥♥♥ mobile tier CPU from a decade ago when I have a real PC, I want a standalone native SteamVR headset not like the Windows garbage that requires extra drivers that require Windows and will be discontinued by the manufacturer when it flops rendering all the headsets useless. Why is this so much to ask for?

Good to see the PSVR2 finally coming to PC, even tho it still seems like its gonna need an extra driver, its not SteamVR native, its gonna be Windows only, still costs ~$700 in my region and apparently half the extra features of the headset won't even work but I guess its still below $1000 and does not fund marks plan for world domination further so I guess thats a step in the right direction? Still 10 steps back compared to the initial SteamVR launch..
Cmon Valve make an Index Lite already.

The Index is no longer the best option the Bigscreen Beyond is but that's $1000 just for the headset and you still need the Index controllers and tracking modules for some reason $1000 translates into almost 1400€ so I feel your pain of PSVR2 being ~$700 in your region. Yeah, the Metaverse is a stupid idea. Odd that Apple tried copying the Idea, but maybe that $3500 thing will cause other tech companies to enter the market as well.

[grzegorz77]

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The Index is no longer the best option the Bigscreen Beyond is but that's $1000 just for the headset and you still need the Index controllers and tracking modules for some reason $1000 translates into almost 1400€ so I feel your pain of PSVR2 being ~$700 in your region. Yeah, the Metaverse is a stupid idea. Odd that Apple tried copying the Idea, but maybe that $3500 thing will cause other tech companies to enter the market as well.

Let's remember that it's 3500 usd without controllers !!!
So if they were produced, you would probably have to pay 1000 or 2000 extra.

Index is still the best option for $1000 if you need accurate 360-degree tracking.

Diposting pertama kali oleh Tino:

„3 cables“ was meant as „3 ports“ including a BT dongle if you’re unlucky. In my case it worked with the internal BT 5, else I had returned the whole package including separate DP cable and adapter I bought for it.

You know, I'm sitting on pc vr, it doesn't matter to me how many usb ports are occupied.
My favorite pc vr set now occupies 4 usb ports exactly, I use about 4 more for other things, and I still have 5 free.