PSVR2 is so much better than Quest 3 its not even funny....

[mckracken]

I have compared them:
Q3 colors are DULL, the contrast is POOR, the blacks are milky GREY not black....
It is shocking (no exaggeration) how much richer AND brighter the image from OLED is.
PSVR2 has less corner sharpness but its not really something where you go wow thats much better on the Q3, when you compare them. Besides your vision will be focused in the center area, so this is not really a strength for the Q3.

Lastly i consider going wireless not a plus, because of latency, compression artifacts and even WORSE black levels. Besides only newbies do room scale, you will get even tired of standing when you have longer game sessions. Im using a pulley for the cable, for me that is a non issue.

[RetroSimon]

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So in this case, is the cable is the bottleneck? Or oculus hardware?

Both. The data transfer technology chosen for the quest. And a cable adapted to this technology.

Some seller came up with the idea that there should be wifi and the price should be such that anyone would buy it. He also came up with the idea that there should be one thin and cheap cable.

The engineers completed the task in accordance with the set goals.
It's cheap, you can use it without a cable as wifi, you can connect it with a long thin and cheap cable.

Everyone is happy.
Everyone except those who understand what they got.

Yup the Snapdragon XR2 chipset in the Quest 2 & Pico 4 can only process so much data before it craps itself. This happens if you set the the decode bitrate to high. Around 250 mbit if i remember correctly. Quest 3 has a newer gen snapdragon chipset and go a little higher.

[grzegorz77]

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Yup the Snapdragon XR2 chipset in the Quest 2 & Pico 4 can only process so much data before it craps itself. This happens if you set the the decode bitrate to high. Around 250 mbit if i remember correctly. Quest 3 has a newer gen snapdragon chipset and go a little higher.

Quest 3 boast on a sticker in the store with powerful, improved graphics (at level 1050 ti).
But for some reason they don't mention cpu. A strange thing

I admit that the quest 2 is an amazing device at a great price.
The Quest 3 also has its advantages, such as faster wifi which allows you to send a better quality image from your computer.

But I prefer pc vr so I prefer vr kits on cable.
And here ps vr2 is a real masterpiece when it comes to value for money.

[Kondiq]

https://www.reddit.com/r/virtualreality/s/NgPiShzhDe

[grzegorz77]

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https://www.reddit.com/r/virtualreality/s/NgPiShzhDe

Interesting opinion.

In fact, if for someone, the preview cameras, are so important, it is better to buy the quest 3.
Fresnel lenses have a small sweet spot, it's obvious, they don't have only advantages.
I would also prefer controllers with AA batteries.
In my opinion, you can't blame ps vr2 for the lack of amd graphics card features either.

Let everyone buy what's better for them, I choose ps vr2, quest 3 doesn't interest me.

[Monky Games]

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https://www.reddit.com/r/virtualreality/s/NgPiShzhDe

Interesting opinion.

In fact, if for someone, the preview cameras, are so important, it is better to buy the quest 3.
Fresnel lenses have a small sweet spot, it's obvious, they don't have only advantages.
I would also prefer controllers with AA batteries.
In my opinion, you can't blame ps vr2 for the lack of amd graphics card features either.

Let everyone buy what's better for them, I choose ps vr2, quest 3 doesn't interest me.

If you want a mobile phone replacement, buy a Quest 3. The Quest 3 was not designed for gaming but replacing your phone and replacing what you see IRL.

If you want the best VR gaming headset, get a PSVR2.

Simple as that.

[grzegorz77]

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If you want a mobile phone replacement, buy a Quest 3. The Quest 3 was not designed for gaming but replacing your phone and replacing what you see IRL.

If you want the best VR gaming headset, get a PSVR2.

Simple as that.

My heart is in complete agreement with you, but we cannot ignore the facts.

The Quest 3 also copes perfectly with vr games for the phone, there is a large selection of them, and although they are often at the level of pc vr games from 2016, for a portable device it does perfectly.

Ps vr 2 is also not the best pc vr headset, there are better vr goggles.
But for this money, this is what the quest 2 used to be, at this price you won't get anything even close to this parameters and quality.
If you were looking for an oled set on a cable, and you didn't have a bag of gold, your dreams came true.

And the quest 2, let's not forget about the quest 2, it's not very far behind the quest 3 and we can get it for ridiculously low money.
If you want to see what VR is, it's still a great proposition. It's better to buy quest 2 than to buy nothing.

[dEEkAy]

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If you want a mobile phone replacement, buy a Quest 3. The Quest 3 was not designed for gaming but replacing your phone and replacing what you see IRL.

If you want the best VR gaming headset, get a PSVR2.

Simple as that.

My heart is in complete agreement with you, but we cannot ignore the facts.

The Quest 3 also copes perfectly with vr games for the phone, there is a large selection of them, and although they are often at the level of pc vr games from 2016, for a portable device it does perfectly.

Ps vr 2 is also not the best pc vr headset, there are better vr goggles.
But for this money, this is what the quest 2 used to be, at this price you won't get anything even close to this parameters and quality.
If you were looking for an oled set on a cable, and you didn't have a bag of gold, your dreams came true.

And the quest 2, let's not forget about the quest 2, it's not very far behind the quest 3 and we can get it for ridiculously low money.
If you want to see what VR is, it's still a great proposition. It's better to buy quest 2 than to buy nothing. :p2chell:

Just look at it this way. You either already invested into VR and got a quest or like many others got a pc and a ps5. i bought the psvr2 day 1 and never regret it and now on top got a whole new library of games to play due to pc compatibility.

Sure, a wireless experience is more convenient, especially if you can do certain things standalone without a pc. Going through HL Alyx with the good OLED screen of the psvr2 is just nice.

[grzegorz77]

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Just look at it this way. You either already invested into VR and got a quest or like many others got a pc and a ps5. i bought the psvr2 day 1 and never regret it and now on top got a whole new library of games to play due to pc compatibility.

Sure, a wireless experience is more convenient, especially if you can do certain things standalone without a pc. Going through HL Alyx with the good OLED screen of the psvr2 is just nice.

If that wasn't clear, I'm not a fan of quest sets.

I have a vr set on a cable from the beginning, and it's oled.

Of course, the colors in alyx will be much better, but oled shine the most in games like the:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/475190/Scanner_Sombre/
(Scanner Sombre)

Recently I was surprised how beautiful the cave in the dlc for kayak vr mirage is, when we watch it in oled (It's a tiny cave, don't buy an dlc specifically for it)

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2926750/Kayak_VR_Mirage__Soca_Valley_including_whitewater/
(Kayak VR: Mirage - Soča Valley (including whitewater))

Storm at night is also impressive (dlc not needed)

I'm sorry, maybe I'm saying this unnecessarily. But it's all so beautiful, that I couldn't stop.

[RetroSimon]

Could not get Scanner Sombre to work with the PSVR2 controllers.

[grzegorz77]

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Could not get Scanner Sombre to work with the PSVR2 controllers.

It's very sad, this game on oled shines.

But check again, there was some strange method of moving.
Maybe like in the oldest VR games, to teleport you have to point your hand in the direction and press L3 / R3 or something similar. (i.e. press the knob)

edit:
Also, make sure that the game on the monitor has active focus.

[Kondiq]

I'll stay with my Reverb G2 V2 for now. Still not a good replacement for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5qOFVjy7UU

[grzegorz77]

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I'll stay with my Reverb G2 V2 for now. Still not a good replacement for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5qOFVjy7UU

(Tyriel Wood - VR Tech :)
(THROUGH THE LENSES - PSVR2 PC Adapter vs Valve INDEX vs Reverb G2)

Comparison: ps vr2, index, reverb g2
oled ; lcd ; lcd
Each of the sets has Fresnel lenses
The filmmaker himself says that such a comparison makes no sense because the camera sees differently than the human eye.
Most of the video is just a few, mostly still images from games recorded with a camera.
Most people will watch the movie on lcd, not on oled !!! (So won't see the difference in colors).
A short summary that doesn't add much.

But sure, if you like your g2, there's no reason to replace them.

If you give links to videos, maybe at least paste the title too.

[Monky Games]

Kondiq eredeti hozzászólása:

I'll stay with my Reverb G2 V2 for now. Still not a good replacement for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5qOFVjy7UU

PSVR2 has a much wider field of view. OLED crushes G2 as well.

But if you can't afford a PSVR2, it's understandable.

[Kondiq]

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Kondiq eredeti hozzászólása:

I'll stay with my Reverb G2 V2 for now. Still not a good replacement for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5qOFVjy7UU

PSVR2 has a much wider field of view. OLED crushes G2 as well.

But if you can't afford a PSVR2, it's understandable.

I have Reverb G2 V2, so the face gasket has two parts and if you remove one, the FOV is way higher than in the original G2 (supposedly 98 degrees). Still not as high as PSVR2, but the difference is not as big as with the original G2.

[mckracken]

i had a g2. its really only sharp in the center. it gets blurry fast. Psvr2 is much better here.
Other than that, the LCD was pretty good in terms of colors and blacks. Better than the q3 for sure.