How the Game Calculates Your No Death Achievement (Solved)

[BostonCrab]

I was wondering on how the game calculated the total number of deaths for a save file, and what actually contributed to this number. Does the red screen automatically add one death to your counter, or is it on respawn? And about exiting the game, if you simply quit without going through the menu, your character wakes up on the ground with the red filter around him, as if he just died. Does this also count to your death number? Just a few questions about particularites that I hope somebody will be able to answer

[BostonCrab]

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[Lyart]

Actually I need an answer too. I will try to play in NG+ to unlock the achievement. But if I have to do the game in one single run...

[PetThePup]

Originally posted by Lyart:

Actually I need an answer too. I will try to play in NG+ to unlock the achievement. But if I have to do the game in one single run...

Haha, you're not going to do it on New Game+. You die in one hit from half of the enemies...

[Johnzo]

You can pause and leave a boss fight via menu if you're low on healers. I wimped out and did this once and it still counted. Unfortunately, I can't confirm if doing a hard reset counts as a death, but I want to think the devs considered the possibility of the game crashing, especially because they are still working on bug fixes.

I recommend doing NG+ before you go for no-death because it forces you to learn the bosses very well to deal with their 2-damage abilities (and you'll get used to having a tiny health pool)

[Anonymous of Washington]

wow can you even get more horrible at videogames

what an embarassing thread

[BostonCrab]

Ok, so I got the achievement today. Was pretty hard. Learned a few things and I thought I'd share.

So, the game doesn't count deaths, exactly. It counts hard resets (the red distortion effect) that you see on waking up. This effect looks like you've been knocked to the ground and you're struggling to get up, and also has the red filter jittering over it. That's the count.

There are two ways you receive the count, not just one. The first is, of course, when you die. That's the no brainer. The second, is when you hard quit the program. This is important to note, because if you want to maybe take a day's break between the south boss and the final boss, and you simply quit out by hitting the X in the window, that's a "death". When you log back in, it will play the "Dead recovery" effect, and then you'll continue on.

This means two things: one, you can't just quit if you do die, and you want to "beat the clock" and erase that mess up. Fair enough, just gotta get good. But two, is that unless you've been really diligent about exiting the game through the menus, and also quitting the title menu through the prompted menu buttons (don't just quit the window while in the title menu), when you load up your next save, you're going to wind up with an unaccounted death.

Don't let what happened to me happen to you. Save lives. Be informed.

ALSO:

Originally posted by Anonymous of Washington:

wow can you even get more horrible at videogames

what an embarassing thread

Eat my ass. Knowing how a game calculates this kind of thing is important for this exact reason.

[CraftyBirb]

Originally posted by BostonCrab:

Ok, so I got the achievement today. Was pretty hard. This means two things: one, you can't just quit if you do die, and you want to "beat the clock" and erase that mess up. Fair enough, just gotta get good. But two, is that unless you've been really diligent about exiting the game through the menus, and also quitting the title menu through the prompted menu buttons (don't just quit the window while in the title menu), when you load up your next save, you're going to wind up with an unaccounted death.

I'm kinda fuzzy right now. So, to "properly" quit the game without getting an unwanted "death", you have to pull up the in-game menu, quit to title screen, then click on "exit game"?

[BostonCrab]

Originally posted by ForgottenCrowd:

Originally posted by BostonCrab:

Ok, so I got the achievement today. Was pretty hard. This means two things: one, you can't just quit if you do die, and you want to "beat the clock" and erase that mess up. Fair enough, just gotta get good. But two, is that unless you've been really diligent about exiting the game through the menus, and also quitting the title menu through the prompted menu buttons (don't just quit the window while in the title menu), when you load up your next save, you're going to wind up with an unaccounted death.

I'm kinda fuzzy right now. So, to "properly" quit the game without getting an unwanted "death", you have to pull up the in-game menu, quit to title screen, then click on "exit game"?

yep

[ichnicero]

@BostonCrab
Thank you for posting your findings dude... I was wondering if I had to play the entire game in one sitting or would I be able to exit the menus and save progress... I guess the former is the answer to my question. Will be a tough task, but I'll definitely give it a try.

Oh and FYI: Don't let trolls get to you dude... You'll always find one lurking among the crowd. Better to just ignore them. They can't stand being ignored lol!

[Shrubber]

It counts when you die...
It autosaves when you respawn...

Dont know whats so compliacted.

Originally posted by BostonCrab:

Originally posted by ForgottenCrowd:

I'm kinda fuzzy right now. So, to "properly" quit the game without getting an unwanted "death", you have to pull up the in-game menu, quit to title screen, then click on "exit game"?

yep

No. Why would you have to "exit game"?

Originally posted by ichnicero:

@BostonCrab
Thank you for posting your findings dude... I was wondering if I had to play the entire game in one sitting or would I be able to exit the menus and save progress..

You can save and quit... Just dont die...

[Madness]

Originally posted by RootCookie:

It autosaves when you respawn...

Dont know whats so compliacted.

Some people don't quit properly, they just exit the game. (Don't ask me why, but it's a thing) There's also the question of whether they can quit during a boss fight to avoid dying. The thread is reasonable.