Solar Ash Kingdom only on "that" store?

[Setorrs The Lollygagger]

Saw the trailer of Heart Machine's new game and i got to say it looks good, but the logo of "that" store took away any excitement i might have had for this game. Don't think the bigger revenue "that" store provides is worth shooting yourself in the foot and not have bigger sales with the bigger audience that steam provides.

[TankTheta]

Pnume a écrit :

TripleHelix935 a écrit :

I love Hyper Light Drifter but Zoe Quinn's involvement is a deal breaker. I can wait for the game to come off the Epic Store but that is something that means i may not even pirate. It saddens me.

I was not even aware of this. It's the proverbial cherry on the cake to me.

Yeah, it may be a true deal breaker. We won't know till the story is made but I get the feeling it may get Royally DESTROYED by this. I'll wait and see, since well, we'll have to wait given Epic.

[Grampire]

I'm disappointed it's on the EGS as I won't do business there, I'll keep my fingers crossed for it being a timed thing. If not... there's plenty of other fish in the sea when it comes to video games.

The narrative in HLD was exactly what I wanted from a game of any type. I'm not really interested in who Zoe Quinn is or what she's done, but if someone else is taking the reins on the narrative that alone is enough for me to wait and see how it turns out.

[TankTheta]

Grampire a écrit :

I'm disappointed it's on the EGS as I won't do business there, I'll keep my fingers crossed for it being a timed thing. If not... there's plenty of other fish in the sea when it comes to video games.

The narrative in HLD was exactly what I wanted from a game of any type. I'm not really interested in who Zoe Quinn is or what she's done, but if someone else is taking the reins on the narrative that alone is enough for me to wait and see how it turns out.

She's very heavily put political aspects into some of her works. Not all, but certainly some. And I get concerned about that as she's quite a corrupt figure. Having her risk influencing HLD is really worrying. I'll wait, because I think even she could avoid overpoliticising the game, but it is a concern

[Nebula Punk]

Same. HLD is one of my favorite games on Steam but I won't be giving Epic a penny. I'm not really into Chinese invested spyware that has already been caught stealing user's data as well as multiple security breaches. The fact that they don't even have a shopping cart says a lot. If they can't even do that do you really think they can make our user information (like address, credit card, etc.) safe?

Anti-consumer garbage and I'm really disappointed in these devs for going to Epic after Steam is responsible for making them successful in the first place.

[velkito]

Friendly reminder that there has been at least one case of a person's EGS account hacked with 2FA on.

[kia256]

Any info on how?
I mean social engineering can beat any kind of encryption. :)

[Wanda]

All these "no buy" guys aren't true fans. I'd buy it on Ouyaif it was my only option. Hell I'd buy it on a fridge with a little lcd screen on the door

[Vandal Savant]

If being a true fan means having utterly no sense of context, then I'm glad I'm not one.

[Wanda]

The word context doesn't mean what you think it means

[Vandal Savant]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

I still stand by my opinion that brand loyalty of any kind is not something to be proud of. Companies, both in and out of video games and including ones with generally goodwill love that kind of blindered infatuation, and any of them with a whit of business sense will exploit it in a heartbeat. Whether it's reducing the places you can buy your game so they can get exclusivity money, or something more genuinely insidious (a recent relevant example could be Bethesda and the canvas bag debacle). You're just making it easier for them.

[TankTheta]

Wanda, I am a true fan, of the original HLD. But, I am not going to unconditionally love a franchise if it's ran into the ground. A fan of my type stays for what they loved, rather than staying for the husk that carries it's name alone.
If the dev runs SAK into the ground, I won't support that, because I want to support quality games, not terrible ones. I would want my own fans in future, when I become an indie, to do the same. Not just kiss my ass, but to support me for making quality games.

[Grampire]

Wanda ½ a écrit :

All these "no buy" guys aren't true fans. I'd buy it on Ouyaif it was my only option. Hell I'd buy it on a fridge with a little lcd screen on the door

Please explain how being a "true fan" enhances anyone's enjoyment of... anything, and isn't just some arbitrary and relatively pathetic form of ♥♥♥♥ measuring.

[kia256]

Junkyard Junkie a écrit :

I wouldn't support or buy the games by Heart Machine since the devs are very crappy and it includes Zoe Quinn. The same Zoe Quinn that drove Night in the Woods' Alec Holowka to suicide.

I wouldn't call the developers crappy, HLD was a great game and a true show of talent. However the decision to invite ZQ, who only has corruption, scandals and lackluster projects (unless you drink the access media cool aid) behind her reeks of politics. And if you go into politics, you can't really complain if people with opposing views decline to support you.

I don't consider her to be a good writer, I disagree with her radical views and more than anything I abhor her corrupt, self-serving and amoral actions.

Due to all of this I find it impossible to support the SAK developers even though I consider them to be talented and interesting people. Unfortunately they've made their bed and now they have to lie in it.

[kia256]

By the way ZQ's allegations against Holowka seem to be falling apart.

Jeremy from Quartering is doing a nice coverage of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuTFy1S2x3g

[StaticOrbz]

kia256 a écrit :

salmontoast a écrit :

piracy.

Just want to note that when people with mouse symbols next to their names - your actual PAYING CUSTOMERS - start to hate on your next game, maybe you're doing something very wrong.

And while big boys like Bethesda, EA or Disney can basically give their fans a middle finger since they have enormous amounts of fat, I don't think little guys like Heart Machine can survive if their current fans turn away.

As for me - I won't be pirating the game. I'm literally too disgusted with SJWs to have anything to do with it.

This.

Also makes me wonder if they have done the math.
What will be more 'costly'? Replacing a staff member that the community wants nothing to do with, changing platforms (i honestly dont know what 'that' platform is offering them to choose it over steam) or losing revenue from all the boycotting.