Lore question about final boss

[Domin1k]

When general Brand offered Sam to Ugh Zan, they were so close to finally capturing Sam. But then Ugh Zan just threw Brand and Sam away like they were some useless nuisance. Why? Did he even understand what was Brand saying to him?

[SamuelHydeous]

I have no idea, feels like an easy and dumb way to get rid of Brand so the player can progress. I mean, if he accepted, Sam would be dead xD

[Avant]

Maybe the boss thought he could kill Sam on his own without Brand's help?

[Domin1k]

Originally posted by Avant:

Maybe the boss thought he could kill Sam on his own without Brand's help?

IMO if he wanted to kill Sam he could just crush him and Brand in his hand. Maybe he thought fall from such height would kill them. Which begs question how did Sam survive such fall? I get Brand survived it because he was in his monster form.

But I don't really think he wanted to kill them. After all, Brand says Mental would be most pleased to see Sam humbled, which I interpret as being processed or somewhat turned into powerful ally of Mental.

[★Aarox★]

This game is full of holes. Don't even try to understand the story, because it seems like it was written quickly in a few minutes.

[SeriousNorbo]

Originally posted by ★Aarox★:

This game is full of holes. Don't even try to understand the story, because it seems like it was written quickly in a few minutes.

*Sam meeting his own future self intensifies*

Personally, i think that back then, Mental and his minions didn't really considered Sam as big of a threat as he turned out to be. I think Mental learned that Sam must be stopped at all cost once he killed Ugh-Zan VI, that's why Mental send Ugh-Zan IV just to keep Sam on Earth for long enough to die from the moon crash.

[PootisMayo]

Originally posted by ★Aarox★:

This game is full of holes. Don't even try to understand the story, because it seems like it was written quickly in a few minutes.

That’s why I don’t play for the story.

[Mental Paradox]

Where does Ugh-Zhan VI even come from, considering the previous Ugh Zhan, Ugh Zhan IV, was still alive at the time and guarding the Time-Lock in Egypt? What happened to Ugh Zhan V? Stuck in traffic?

And why doesn't VI have four arms, like all of the others of his kind? And did they just retcon Ugh-Zhan's regenerative abilities to make it into a machine thing, rather than an innate biological ability? I swear Croteam stinks at creating consistent lore. Every game is full of unnecessary retcons.

[Domin1k]

Originally posted by Mental Paradox:

Where does Ugh-Zhan VI even come from, considering the previous Ugh Zhan, Ugh Zhan IV, was still alive at the time and guarding the Time-Lock in Egypt? What happened to Ugh Zhan V? Stuck in traffic?

And why doesn't VI have four arms, like all of the others of his kind? And did they just retcon Ugh-Zhan's regenerative abilities to make it into a machine thing, rather than an innate biological ability? I swear Croteam stinks at creating consistent lore. Every game is full of unnecessary retcons.

Brand actually says he summoned him so that he can offer Sam to him. I guess he simply came through the portal. NETRICSA entry about Ugh-Zan VI actually mentions Ugh-Zan IV and V:

Ugh-Zan VI, also known by his titles the Gargantuan Guardian, Warlock of the Portal, and Tah-Um’s Foot (the latter losing something of its originally quite threatening tone in translation) was until very recently known from second-hand accounts. An informant working with the French Resistance suggested the existence of an enormous humanoid, possibly related to General Ugh-Zan IV (presumed to be killed in the Battle of Alpha Centauri) and Ugh-Zan V (obliterated in Oslo), but details were scarce and General Brand suggested the information might be faulty. In actuality, he does exist, and has he has some sort of rods attached to him that help him heal.

In appearance, he is a massive humanoid creature covered in metal plating. Unlike other members of the Ugh-Zan dynasty, he only has two arms.

[PhysicBook]

I thought that Ugh-Zan IV also had 2 arms, but the other two arms were implanted. But maybe I forgot about this moment.

[Mental Paradox]

Originally posted by PhysicBook:

I thought that Ugh-Zan IV also had 2 arms, but the other two arms were implanted. But maybe I forgot about this moment.

Yeah, that's true. I figured he lost his bottom 2 arms along with his legs in the battle of Alpha Centauri.

[{QFTF}Serious Ste]

Originally posted by SeriousNorbo:

Originally posted by ★Aarox★:

This game is full of holes. Don't even try to understand the story, because it seems like it was written quickly in a few minutes.

*Sam meeting his own future self intensifies*

Personally, i think that back then, Mental and his minions didn't really considered Sam as big of a threat as he turned out to be. I think Mental learned that Sam must be stopped at all cost once he killed Ugh-Zan VI, that's why Mental send Ugh-Zan IV just to keep Sam on Earth for long enough to die from the moon crash.

that should be wrong, he would have fought a lot in space by then

[Mental Paradox]

By the time of SS4, Sam should already be pretty famous both on Earth and among Mental's ranks. He was the captain of the exploration vessel that awoke Mental when they came too close to the main planet in the Sirius system. Then he became captain of the Saratoga, and was involved in multiple battles on the off-world colonies.