Serious Sam 4

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Where is legion system?
https://youtu.be/vLUgSqqaOxc

SPOILERS ALERT:

I compelted game on hard and like it very much, but the only battle with lots of enemies is one in Tunguska where you have lots of bulls, mechs and lower enemies, still maybe 100 max, not thoughsands nor hundreds. And it still isnt legion system, just lots of enemies respawning all the time eating my cannon balls
On video at 0:40 I haven't got anything similar, there also were some moments with lots of dudes in orange suits and thats about it, final battle is the only place that has legion system but enemies and ground have similar colors so you cant even see enemies all that much, are they planning to add it to more levels like the one on bike at 0:40 in video?
Last edited by Favkis Nexerade; Sep 28, 2020 @ 2:12am
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Lufka Sep 28, 2020 @ 2:27am 
wait a minute, bet there comes a guy who will say that we got trailer wrong and croteam said that legion system its only a "trick"

"thousands and thousands enemies" XDDDDDDD

where are those guys i was arguing about that this is going to be more like background not active enemies, many of you owe me apology.

"hundred thousand enemies" XDD

see you at 5 bucks sale
Last edited by Lufka; Sep 28, 2020 @ 2:32am
Favkis Nexerade Sep 28, 2020 @ 2:35am 
Originally posted by Lufka:
wait a minute, bet there comes a guy who will say that we got trailer wrong and croteam said that legion system its only a "trick"

"thousands and thousands enemies" XDDDDDDD

where are those guys i was arguing about that this is going to be more like background not active enemies, many of you owe me apology.

"hundred thousand enemies" XDD

see you at 5 bucks sale
I didnt even expect it, I know that modern marketing is lies upon lies and misinformation said speciefic way so devs could backpedal on what they said, still game is good for its price and Im just curious if I did something wrong on this level or not, because it took me 3 minutes of bike ride to compelte bike sequence and half of that level
PsyWarVeteran Sep 28, 2020 @ 2:49am 
Straight up lies, they introduced it like it was the game's defining feature, which it should have been, only to now say things like: "The thousands of enemies were never meant to be fought" and "We made it clear in subsequent interviews".

What the hell is this? You show people that kickass teaser that takes place in a HUGE environment, with Sam charging to attack thousands of enemies, of course people will think they will be fighting those insane amounts of enemies.

Now, that huge level is 90% empty and is mostly just a boring and mediocre driving level.

Either Croteam really wanted to create a true legion system, as advertised, only to fail and not to delay the game any longer, cut it OR they simply lied to attract customers, there is no middle ground.

This was my first pre-order, mostly because it was pretty cheap, and it will be my last, at least from Croteam. This game has serious problems and the (lack of) legion system is only a part of it. They messed it up.
Elenoe Sep 28, 2020 @ 2:53am 
legion system is only the background. It was always presented as such. And yes, it was only used in the last (first) level so far. Which might be a shame, it could fit the game on more places, but still.

They were never meant to be fought, that wouldn't make sense. If you didn't get it then you have zero critical thinking and you should work on that. That's all.

There are already a lot of places with 100+ enemies at once (not a legion obviously) and you can add even more if you feel like you could actually handle them at once :)
Last edited by Elenoe; Sep 28, 2020 @ 2:54am
Favkis Nexerade Sep 28, 2020 @ 2:57am 
Originally posted by PsyWarVeteran:
Straight up lies, they introduced it like it was the game's defining feature, which it should have been, only to now say things like: "The thousands of enemies were never meant to be fought" and "We made it clear in subsequent interviews".

What the hell is this? You show people that kickass teaser that takes place in a HUGE environment, with Sam charging to attack thousands of enemies, of course people will think they will be fighting those insane amounts of enemies.

Now, that huge level is 90% empty and is mostly just a boring and mediocre driving level.

Either Croteam really wanted to create a true legion system, as advertised, only to fail and not to delay the game any longer, cut it OR they simply lied to attract customers, there is no middle ground.

This was my first pre-order, mostly because it was pretty cheap, and it will be my last, at least from Croteam. This game has serious problems and the (lack of) legion system is only a part of it. They messed it up.
Yeah... Didnt expect that from croteam, I love SS3 and Talos Principle so bought SS4 and while its a good game for my tastes, still disappointed I was lied to. I remember being hyped seeing scenes of thoughsands of enemies rushing on Sam while he's on bike and yhinking how interesting it would be, what tactics could I use to defeat such large hordes, but in the end largest battles are not even close to what was shown and most of enemies are middle sized to create more visual volume feeling and hife the fact that there are not that many enemies...
Favkis Nexerade Sep 28, 2020 @ 3:04am 
Originally posted by Elenoe:
legion system is only the background. It was always presented as such. And yes, it was only used in the last (first) level so far. Which might be a shame, it could fit the game on more places, but still.

They were never meant to be fought, that wouldn't make sense. If you didn't get it then you have zero critical thinking and you should work on that. That's all.

There are already a lot of places with 100+ enemies at once (not a legion obviously) and you can add even more if you feel like you could actually handle them at once :)
Legion system was presented like you'll fight them in trailers and interviews, they've been saying things like "thoughsands and thoughsands of enemies", "largest battles" and showing these clips of hordes. Main trailer shows these hordes rushing to sam while he is on bike, but they arent in game even visually, it'd be ok even if they were not fightable and you'd have to escape them for example, but nothing like that in game, just marketing grey lie presenting with way to backpedal on what was shown.

If they never meant to be fought then they were meant to be advertise lie to hype people into thinking they'll play against hordes. Why wouldnt it make sense? How is it different from fighting dozens of enemies? Give us capable weapon, gadet and vehicle such as jetpack/car/mech to quickly reingage and these hordes would've been fightable.
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PsyWarVeteran Sep 28, 2020 @ 3:05am 
^ Exactly.
adz Sep 28, 2020 @ 3:08am 
is the very first level the legion system? where u see a big war zone with bad guys and allies?
PsyWarVeteran Sep 28, 2020 @ 3:09am 
Originally posted by adz:
is the very first level the legion system? where u see a big war zone with bad guys and allies?

The first and the last.
adz Sep 28, 2020 @ 3:11am 
yeh i thought so, it was madness loved it.
Springfield Sep 28, 2020 @ 5:47am 
I would hope a lot more enemies in France, but the Legion System is only in the 1st & Last level. This is my main disappointment in the game since it also feels like a false fight.
Here is a closed thread (due to arguing) on the topic and with 2 or 3 responses from their "Communications dude". https://steamcommunity.com/app/257420/discussions/0/2840039920171368023/
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