Serious Sam 4

Serious Sam 4

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Mållgan Sep 23, 2020 @ 9:48pm
This game has higher system requirements than Doom Eternal
But it doesn't even look nearly as good as Doom Eternal. It looks exactly the same as Serious Sam 3. Are the developers under the impression that having high system requirements and poor optimizations are somehow selling points?

If this game doesn't have a demo or some tech benchmark software that we can try before purchasing the game, then it's nothing but predatory.
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PsyWarVeteran Sep 23, 2020 @ 9:50pm 
Graphics aren't exactly good but they are better than BFE.
Mållgan Sep 23, 2020 @ 9:54pm 
Originally posted by PsyWarVeteran:
Graphics aren't exactly good but they are better than BFE.

I have looked at 2 hours of gameplay of Serious Sam 4 and 2 hours of gameplay of Serious Sam 3 BFE, they are exactly the same.
Popon13 Sep 23, 2020 @ 9:58pm 
Originally posted by Generic Player:
Originally posted by PsyWarVeteran:
Graphics aren't exactly good but they are better than BFE.

I have looked at 2 hours of gameplay of Serious Sam 4 and 2 hours of gameplay of Serious Sam 3 BFE, they are exactly the same.
Dude just looking at the Sam player model shows it's better
Chicken Sep 23, 2020 @ 10:02pm 
The character models and environments definitely looked updated, but I'm curious about the system requirements as well. The opening sequence and the first area with the giant monster in the background honestly look great.
Mållgan Sep 23, 2020 @ 10:02pm 
Originally posted by Popon13:
Originally posted by Generic Player:

I have looked at 2 hours of gameplay of Serious Sam 4 and 2 hours of gameplay of Serious Sam 3 BFE, they are exactly the same.
Dude just looking at the Sam player model shows it's better

A GTX 970 with an i7 4770K can play Doom Eternal at 1080p on max settings and get 60-70fps. That's the minimum requirements of Serious Sam 4. If you can't get the same performance at the same settings on a cartoon-like game like Serious Sam 4 then I would label the PC version of the game to be a failure.
You do realize DOOM Eternal has maybe 10 - 30 enemies on screen at all times? Serious Sam will often have 50 - 150 enemies on screen.
PsyWarVeteran Sep 23, 2020 @ 10:03pm 
Originally posted by Generic Player:
Originally posted by PsyWarVeteran:
Graphics aren't exactly good but they are better than BFE.

I have looked at 2 hours of gameplay of Serious Sam 4 and 2 hours of gameplay of Serious Sam 3 BFE, they are exactly the same.

Look harder.
Kyller92 AKA Cinos Sep 23, 2020 @ 10:04pm 
To be fair, many games less beautiful than Doom Eternal have higher requirements. Also, the budget is not the same.
However, to say "it's nothing but predatory" is just not true in this case. Actually, your post proves it's even the opposite here.
Mållgan Sep 23, 2020 @ 10:05pm 
Originally posted by Brian (The Schmaltzy Cynic):
You do realize DOOM Eternal has maybe 10 - 30 enemies on screen at all times? Serious Sam will often have 50 - 150 enemies on screen.

You do realize that Serious Sam 4 graphics is basically Playstation 3 graphics? If the developers are struggling to make the game run properly on outdated graphics then that's their problem. They need to learn to do their job properly.
Originally posted by Generic Player:
Originally posted by Brian (The Schmaltzy Cynic):
You do realize DOOM Eternal has maybe 10 - 30 enemies on screen at all times? Serious Sam will often have 50 - 150 enemies on screen.

You do realize that Serious Sam 4 graphics is basically Playstation 3 graphics? If the developers are struggling to make the game run properly on outdated graphics then that's their problem. They need to learn to do their job properly.

Yea ok. That strawman term was used here be fore when people said it look like n64 graphics.

Of course the graphics will look bad on low settings. When i play tomorrow i'm putting the graphics on ultra and at 4k.
Last edited by ↑↑↓↓←→←→BASelect; Sep 23, 2020 @ 10:08pm
Kaiser Ducky Sep 23, 2020 @ 10:15pm 
Originally posted by Brian (The Schmaltzy Cynic):
You do realize DOOM Eternal has maybe 10 - 30 enemies on screen at all times? Serious Sam will often have 50 - 150 enemies on screen.
Even more than that. They've confirmed months ago that they've successfully gotten literally thousands of enemies on screen (the goal was 100,000, which apparently was met). Even if the graphics were worse than SS3's, that's completely understandable.

Still. Looks like SS4 has better graphics than SS3 so far.
{QFTF}Serious Ste Sep 23, 2020 @ 11:05pm 
Originally posted by Generic Player:
Originally posted by Popon13:
Dude just looking at the Sam player model shows it's better

A GTX 970 with an i7 4770K can play Doom Eternal at 1080p on max settings and get 60-70fps. That's the minimum requirements of Serious Sam 4. If you can't get the same performance at the same settings on a cartoon-like game like Serious Sam 4 then I would label the PC version of the game to be a failure.
Doom eternal takes place in smaller, locked in arenas with way fewer enemies. Also it had a way bigger budget. Ss4 is way more open with way more enemies. If you tried to pull the same with Eternal's engine it would not run at all
MundM Sep 23, 2020 @ 11:28pm 
I think those games are too different to compare. Serious Sam always had relatively high system requirements, because there is so much going on. Doom doesn't have close to the amount of enemies in one spot as the SS games have. Sure, the quality of animation, ai and visuals are better in Doom, but they also have different funding and Doom doesn't need to apply its tech to 50 enemies at once (and more).


PS I love that vehicles are back. That, and a lack of level variety was what disappointed me from SS BFE.
Last edited by MundM; Sep 23, 2020 @ 11:29pm
Strogg Sep 23, 2020 @ 11:33pm 
Originally posted by Generic Player:
Originally posted by Brian (The Schmaltzy Cynic):
You do realize DOOM Eternal has maybe 10 - 30 enemies on screen at all times? Serious Sam will often have 50 - 150 enemies on screen.

You do realize that Serious Sam 4 graphics is basically Playstation 3 graphics? If the developers are struggling to make the game run properly on outdated graphics then that's their problem. They need to learn to do their job properly.

lmao there's always some idiot that knows jack to ♥♥♥♥ about game design and think games can only have high requirement because "muh graphics"
Stanley Ipkiss Sep 24, 2020 @ 12:08am 
I think the game looks great overall. Most recordings are highly compressed and makes games look way worse anyways.
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