best bad guy ever - show of hands for Jon Irenicus?

[Roger Andout]

Just whilst we're waiting for the last half a handful of hours to elapse before
getting immersed in BGII:EE I thought it would be fascinating to see if anyone
agrees than Jon Irenicus is the most chilling and well characterised bad guy
in game history. I've played a small host of games since finishing with Shadows
of Amn back in '99- yet I can't think of any real competition to put up against Jon
Irenicus in this category.
So please feel free to voice your opinions on your choice of game super villain,
whether you agree with me or not. Cheers.

[venusinfurs2000]

I love him, but also loved the bad guy from KOTOR 2, one of the most interesting of all time. Won't say anything else for those who haven't played it. The Guardian in the Ultima games was also pretty cool. And of course Le Chuck.

[Sammi79]

Yeah he's bad, the voice actor is superb and British (best for evil I think) and the plotline that has you constantly one step behind him makes him seem very menacing.

For me though the bad guy at the end of R-Type was just so mean looking, albeit slightly easy to kill.

[venusinfurs2000]

And of course Shodan.

[pbKnAvE]

Jon Irenicus is my idol.

I especially love the glass jars with pickled men inside. Such a nice touch to a beautiful dungeon.

[Vézina]

Originally posted by pbKnAvE:

Jon Irenicus is my idol.

I especially love the glass jars with pickled men inside. Such a nice touch to a beautiful dungeon.

Haha you just made my day sir!

[InanisAdytum]

Jonalith Irenicus, the only character concieved in my opinion that rivals the inginuity and resourcefulness of the Joker. Equally as fearless and crazy, and possibly more effective. I would definately agree with your statement. He's the first video game boss I have ever seen that you actually require some decent skill and tactics to defeat, and he can still catch you in a Maze or Imprisonment if you don't come prepaired with Free Action. I like going 1 vs 1 against him with the Sorcerer Class. Epic clash that one!

[Roger Andout]

Just been reading the other thread concerning BG2 and DA:O. I loved and adored
DA:O damn near as much as BG2; just about everything about Dragon Age: Origins
scored a perfect 10 with me and I played it through from start to finish 6 complete times
.... and yet I can't remember the name of the villain! Might just be me but I think that
says that the ultimate villain in DA:O scores no more than a 4 out of 10.
Fave character in BG in, of course, Minsc and Boo. Fave character in DA:O is
without doubt Wade the Master Armour Craftsman, just thinking about him with that
huge moustache and decidely camp manner makes me smile!
Shame DA2 was a total of crock of ...... fill in the blanks yourself.

[venusinfurs2000]

Funny enough I can't remember the name of the bad guy in DA O either. I remember the ones in Dragon Age 2, but that game was awful.

[acniblik]

Jon Irenicus is a freaking awesome villian. It doesn't hurt that his VO rocks and really knows how to bring on the creeping menace vibe better than anyone.

[Sammi79]

Loghain...

[Roger Andout]

*facepalm* yes of course! Was tempted to google the name but decided to try and
remember it, I failed. Thanks Sammi :-)

I do remember the showdown with Loghain was really nothing special, challenging might
be being too generous for the encounter. Forgettable is probably closer to the mark.

[Lambchopz]

Originally posted by Sammi79:

Loghain...

I suppose you could say Loghain, but the real big bad in DA:O was the Archfiend which isn't the most impressive villain considering he's basically just a really powerful dragon. Loghain was good but the threat he posed was not the focus of your efforts.

But yeah, on topic, Irenicus is definitely one of the best villains in gaming, I'm not sure I'd say THE best but he's definitely up there. He was perfect for BG2 and definitely had all of the qualities you want in a good fantasy villain. Menacing, cunning, cold and cruel. Pretty good at magic too (I seem to recall him literally breaking D&D rules in his fights.)

[PaPaStwish]

just so everyone knows it just dropped to 1 hr XD

[Myrmuz [IRL]]

I always thought Dr Breen from HL2 is the kind of villain you love to hate. It's satisfying when you kill them.

Irenicus is on the other hand somewhat more sympathetic, even admirable.

[PancakeWizard]

Irenicus is indeed awesome, and what about the wave of horror that follows him and effects the women in his life? That fat blubbery spider-queen in the first game was cursed by him just for being in love with him, and his sister is a freaking vampire ♥♥♥♥♥ from hell!