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(siding with Bodhi does the same thing for the Amulet of Power (another item with negative plane protection on it)....Siding with the thieves gives it almost immediately, but you can't get it until Bodhi's raid on the Shadow thieves if you sided with her).
yes, that's correct, to my understanding.
apparently, the temple of helm gave me the quest, (because I'm good aligned?)
i'm in chapter 2 and i just got the illithium and i'm hanging on to it.
theres 2 ways to complete the quest, if you have the mace of disruption you have the option of asking the guy to use up the illithium to upgrade the mace to +2.
I almost turned in the quest now. I dunno what made me decide to consult a walkthrough, i hate having to look up walkthrus on games, i don't like to spoil things but i also hate missing things in games because they are so cryptic, you wouldn't even know about them if not for a walkthrough.
chapter 2 thows a ton of quests at you, and i was unaware, i was supposed to wait until the end of chapter 3 to get what i consider to be the "real reward" for this quest.
in my playthrough, i was trying to rush to get imoen back in my party and when chapter 3 started, all my journal entries seemed to disappear. all my quests were gone, so i reloaded my previous save and i've been trying to clear them all before moving on.
(i discovered now, that the quest lgs are still there, i just have to hit the < button to go back to the chapter 2 logs)
from my reading, it seems like they say you have to go through like 90% of the game before you get imoen back, and if you do all the quests, theres nothing left to do once you get her...but then they say the other characters like nalia and yoshimo are not worth leveling up and to go for imoen instead.
and then they say, it's really hard and takes along time to get imoen, and you have to go through the underdark and fight mind flayers and beholders and stuff.
and it's gonna be chapter 6-7 by the time i get her back.
so this begs the question, if I leave all these quests for now and push forward to get imoen, will the quests still be there when I get back?
I do recommend taking Yoshi regardless since Bounty Hunters are OP (and he's MUCH more helpful in all respects then Nalia ever will be), though unfortunately his intended quest-line cuts off part way through due to time contraints, but he was fairly involved with the story up till that point and adds quite a bit to the experience, after which you can replace him if you like. You'll know when it happens since it's really obvious.
As Imeon, I wouldn't worry about it too much, her levels are still about the same as what a max xp TotSC character would have, which all you need to beat BG2 solo, so she'll be more then capable of contributing even if she'll probably be several levels behind depending on party-size/how many side quests/locations you did. Just remember to save a few copies of useful spells, if she didn't already know them up to about 6th level.
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As for Quests, yes, they won't be available during chapters 4 or 5, which becomes obvious why when you get there, but for chapter 6 until the end of SoA, they're available (also several shops gain new merchandise as well), and 3-4 new map locations open up in chapter 6 anyway (though they're mostly easter eggs for people who played BG1, as nothing important really comes from them).
actually I did take Jan. the walkthrough i was reading suggested not taking jan the guy who wrote it thinks he sucks, but he's a better thief/mage than nalia.
i admit, i screwed up yoshimo, i dual classed him into a fighter hoping i could level him up, but his rogue side was level 12 and theres no way his fighter side is ever gonna catch up now so i dropped him. I plan to add in keldorm so my party is going to be me,minsc,anomen,jaheira,keldorm and jan until i get imoen back then i'll drop jan.
i might even drop anomen for aerie...she kind of sucks and only has 30 hp but i screwed up anomen's quest, i hate the fact that he's the only romance choice for a female protagonist, he's actually kind of a doosh, the things he says and his arrogance, edwin almost has a better personality than anomen. although to be fair, anomen's personality seems to have changed along with his alignment since i screwed up his quest, he didn't seem like he was that much of a ♥♥♥♥ when i first met him.
partly, i'm trying o keep one party slot empty so i can do all the quests associated with each character, but it seems like the it's taking too long and not much reward unless i actually intend to keep that particular character. nalia's quest might have been worth it because i get a stronghold, but i would have preferred the mage stronghold and i was unaware that accepting the fighter stronghold would lock me out of th mage one (i am a dual classed mage12/fighter 9)
the fighter stronghold is not really convenient to get to, and i lose 8 hours whenever i fast travel there.
i'm just glad I can get the mace of disruption either way. minsc started off with the right proficiencies and specializations to dual wield maces but i still haven't found a decent mace for him, hes been using a +3 ego weapon 2handed sword that talks and i eventually want to give him axes if the game would ever give him another proficency slot...(i thought ranger was a type of warrior and was supposed to gain proficiencies at the same rate as a fighter, so i guess the next one is at level 13?)
p.s.
I don't know what "totsc" is. I looked it up and it s an expansion to original baldurs gate. is totsc included in the enhanced edition?
i have to admit i have not played the original baldurs gate, despite both BG1:EE and BG2:EE in my steam library i have actually played neither. I bought them during a summer sale and forgot i even had them and then i saw BG2:EE in the ios app store for $5vand bought it
instead, unaware that you are meant to play BG1 and import your character...
I don't mind owning the game on both platforms, like having game son my ipad so i cna play in bed or on the go, i own FTL on both the ipad and steam.
p.p.s. i don't want to get into it here, because i alrwady started a rant about the black pits...but i dunno how the heck somoene is supposed to "solo" black pits 2 with a thief/mage the likes of imoen...
The money they grant would be nice you weren't an adventurer and just lived at the stronghold full time, but adventurers make so much money they simply aren't worth the headache. And only the Mage, Ranger, and Druid strongholds give potentially nice rewards aside from cash (which due to the Monty Haul nature of BG2 is a non-issue).
Black pits has nothing to do with Baldur's Gate (even in universe it's an unrelated side-story with different protagonists) and is built around gladitoral combat which has completely different requirements and expectations to what you want from a character going through the Baldur's Gate saga. Though any part-mage can solo it if properly set up (though I never said it was EASY to solo).
in regards to the strongholds...i just meant, the fighter stronghold, really isnt worth it and i wish i had gone for the mage stronghold, 500 gold a week, and in the first week, i had to solve an issue with bandits and landownership that cost me 1000 gold, so after taking the 500 gold earnings, i ended up down 500 gold.
not that i need it, there's plenty of opportunities to get gold.
i just thought the mage stronghold would have been more convenient. i read that its that planar sphere in the slums and that would have been easier to get to to stash my items.
but yeah i guess i don't really need a stronghold, i've been storing my excess items in the copper coronet, and nobody touches it.
as for the black pits ...yeah..well, the couple of videos i saw where someone soloed black pits 2, they did it really cheesy and gimmicky with like max level, staff of the magi and the cloak of non detection to stay invisible forever, so the enemies couldn't find them and using time stop to go up and kill everyone.
not that i have a problem with that...its just that.
I don't think i should have to do that to beat the black pits, that just seems wrong.
I assumed that if they give you the option to create your own toons without importing them that it would be balanced for fresh characters...but then i have people telling me i'm supposed to import characters...unless they meant i'm supposed to import my toons from the original baldurs gate 1 black pits?
i dunno, the black pits 2 looks like it has all the items you need to beat it, for sale but not enough gold to get them all. unless i grinded the the previous battles over and over again getting 1000 gold each time until i saved the 19k for a good item, and that would take forever.
the main campaign is a breeze compared to black pits 2.
huh? where do you get "worried that doing the quests takes too long" from my post?
what i meant by "convenience" isn't that the quests take too long it's that it takes too long to walk back and forth between the zones. it's not fun to watch your guys walk from one end of a zone to the other, 3 times and then you fast travel to the fighter stronghold, lose 8 hours of game time. just to stash some unused gear.
the planar sphere is in the slums, an area i return to frequently. so that stronghold would have been more convenient,
but i digressed, because I realized the copper coronet is more convenient than either stronghold so it doesn't matter anyway.
my original post was about the mace of disruption and i was worried i wouldn't be able to get it if I sded with the shadow thieves, and people answered my question already.
where?
i see only one spot where i used the phrase "taking too long" and that was in regards to all the specific character recruitment quests, and i was saying i decided not to do every single character's quest because it's taking too long and i'm not even going to use all the characters because i'm playing the good side and i'll just end up having problems if i use the evil characters.
it's not complaining that quests in an rpg take too long, its a decision not to do certain quests because it will take too long.
I'm also mad now too, because chaotic neutral anomen picks fights with keldorm and tried to fight to the death so I ending up having to drop the Dbag in favor of aerie(which i stated earlier i was actually considering anyway). they only have 2 clerics for the good side, anomen and aerie, and anomen's quest sucks, because you can screw it up very early and it pretty much locks you in to a position where anomen become irredeemable. and you don't even realize you screwed up until it's too late.
and its stupid the way they did that "schrodinger's murderer" thing. its like they think sark did it, and if you advse anomen to kill sark, so he kills sark and then it turns out sark is innocent, but then if you do the quest the right way and don't kill sark, it turns out sark was guilty, so like either way, you are always wrong. meanwhile, all through the quest in every conversation you have with him, he constantly blames you for giving him bad advice, you tell him to listen to his conscience and he just gets mad at you blaming you saying if he knew what his heart said then he wouldn't have asked you and meanwhile you just told him to kill sark, you didn't tell him to fricking kill sarks daughter in front of him in cold blood, he totally refuses to take responsibility for his actions...
and it pisses me off he is the only option a female protagonist can romance. I would have loved to have a lesbian relationship with viconia or aerie. but whatever
but i've gone so far off the rails here...
but i guess my point is, that anomen was gonna use the mace and now that i had to get rid of him, there's nobody left to use the mace of disruption, unless i give it to minsc and have him dual wielding maces, which is an idea
Hes a nice cahracter to have in the party, but you can replace him korgan bloodaxe. Korgan is evil yes, and says nasty things but he is a grandmaster of axewielding.... Or you could replace minsc with korgan and keep anomen, or replace either with keldorn. Plenty of interesting options really
the problem i had is that if anomen gets rejcted from the order, he becomes chaotic neutral and picks fights with keldorn. you can not have anomen and keldorn together unless anomen gets accepted.
also, korgan started trying to pick fights with my party members after i completed his quest, so i had to drop him.
keldorn, seems to be suffering from a bug, if I drop him, he gets stuck at his house unable to initiate dialogue, so if I want him, i have to keep him, so i decided not to do any of the other evil character quests because it's just too much trouble.
it will give me a reason to play through again i guess.
i liked anomen's stats, except he only had 12 wisdom and low dex, i was gonna give him the mace of disruption and eventually teach him to use the flail of ages but his comments just started to piss me off and i didn't want a romance with him.
I actually played through edwin's quests, but then i purposely killed him when he was a girl and that guy confronted him, i sold him/her out. i was hoping minsc would say something, because he seemed like he hated edwin and blamed him for the death of someone named dynaheir or something.
what i really wish is that i could have convinced edwin to stay female and then romanced "her"; it would have been worth turning evil just for that.
My party always ends up with minsc, anomen, jaheira, jan janson and imoen in the end. In TOB I swap out minsc for sarevok
well, im playing the ios version so theres a few challenges...
10 i can't use console commands or ctrl commands, or lua or whatevertheheck people tall about to get around some of the bugs.
20, the ios version is a different version than the one available on pc. i think it's the mac os X version and there's a bug with keldorn if you allow him to spend a day with his wife, you gets stuck in dialogue mode and can never rejoin your party. you can fix it with console commands but GOTO 10
although, no i never saw korgan atack anyone but he was talking to other party members saying offensive things insulting them and attempting to provoke them, and i figured, it's best not to mix good and evil characters. but i thought anomen would be okay since chaotic neutral is still not evil, but it's very unpredictable and chaos is opposed to law and of course all paladins are lawful good, so maybe it makes sense that keldorn would not get along. keldorn did his best but anomen had just become too unstable, i had to let him go.
edwin he wants you to find a scroll in the graveyard for him so he can use it to become a lich, but when e reads it, it backfires and turns him into a woman instead. this is kind of a running gag in D&D, the old 2nd edition had a cursed item called the girdle of masculine/femininity which swaps the wearers gender and because its curse, you can't take it off once you putit on, i guess gary gygax was into BDSM... but i digress. after quite some timel like 25 days later...a guy shows up looking for edwin and doesn't realise "edwina" is who he is looking for. you can sell him/her out and tell the guy, and then edwin goes hostile and ou have to kill "them" which is what i chose to do because i'm playing the good party. or you can keep the secret and eventually the guy changes edwin back and then goes hostile and you kill the guy and male edwin becomes your ally permanently