Baldur's Gate II: Enhanced Edition

Baldur's Gate II: Enhanced Edition

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MrMordekaiser 2022 年 6 月 16 日 下午 2:12
Worth playing in 2022?
Heyo i remember playing and loving the first baldurs gate back on playstation, and i was wondering if this is something i should sink some hours into still today? ive played a bit of baldurs gate 3 but with it being early access im waiting to really dive in.
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Burdy333 2022 年 7 月 10 日 下午 2:20 
Just beat BG1 and am currently playing BG 2 in 2022 and loving it. Its not perfect but nothing is. It is still great though and after a few hours you get used to the dated aesthetic and ui.
Gunsaremagic 2022 年 7 月 11 日 上午 12:10 
Doesn't matter if its old this version has been updated to run on modern pcs nothing preventing you from enjoying this game
最后由 Gunsaremagic 编辑于; 2022 年 7 月 11 日 上午 12:11
Dorok 2022 年 7 月 11 日 上午 2:14 
I don't see any dated aesthetic, at reverse it's still fully relevant unlike any 3D game from the eras, if there wasn't the problem of modern monitors being a lot bigger. And for UI many modern games don't do as well.
sere 2022 年 7 月 14 日 下午 5:28 
引用自 Kokiboo
It was only worth playing until March of 2022. You're too late now, sorry.

They recently extended to December 2022 but come January 1 2023, all bets are off.
Yeldo 2022 年 7 月 15 日 上午 12:10 
How do you cope with the slow 30 FPS... even if u change it to 60 fps the animation become weird and too fast not smooth anymore
Dorok 2022 年 7 月 17 日 下午 2:49 
引用自 Yeldo
How do you cope with the slow 30 FPS... even if u change it to 60 fps the animation become weird and too fast not smooth anymore
Where is the setup? I'd be curious try 20 fps, Im' still nostalgic of original BG1 walking speed. :-)
D-Black Catto 2022 年 7 月 17 日 下午 4:51 
引用自 Dorok
- Writing has some seriously good aspect like a lot of stuff around companions, but also some other stuff. It's still very far from a few RPG as Dragonfall or The Witcher 1 that are leagues above on this aspect. But BG2 is still quite good on that overall.

lol no

What do you mean by writing even? Prose? BG2 wins. Quality of the story, defined as a plot, worldbuilding, companion characters? BG2 wins.
Dorok 2022 年 7 月 17 日 下午 5:07 
引用自 D-Black Catto
引用自 Dorok
- Writing has some seriously good aspect like a lot of stuff around companions, but also some other stuff. It's still very far from a few RPG as Dragonfall or The Witcher 1 that are leagues above on this aspect. But BG2 is still quite good on that overall.

lol no

What do you mean by writing even? Prose? BG2 wins. Quality of the story, defined as a plot, worldbuilding, companion characters? BG2 wins.
What prose?

Anything related to text and vocals from acting or narrator, and I suppose acting and cinematic are part of it but BG2 in that is very weak. So story, stories, dialogs, eventually notes and books.

If you can't see how The Witcher 1 (less for 2 or 3) and Dragonfall are league above BG2 I wonder how many novels you read in your life.
D-Black Catto 2022 年 7 月 17 日 下午 5:11 
引用自 Dorok
引用自 D-Black Catto

lol no

What do you mean by writing even? Prose? BG2 wins. Quality of the story, defined as a plot, worldbuilding, companion characters? BG2 wins.
What prose?

Anything related to text and vocals from acting or narrator, and I suppose acting and cinematic are part of it but BG2 in that is very weak. So story, stories, dialogs, eventually notes and books.

If you can't see how The Witcher 1 (less for 2 or 3) and Dragonfall are league above BG2 I wonder how many novels you read in your life.

hundreds, and even wrote a dozen or so

Baldur's gate's prose, wordy and flowery as it may be, is some of the best prose you can find in a video game. The young adult novel style of dragonfall doesn't even compare. As for witcher, that's not a text heavy game, so when discussing prose, we'd have to go with dialogs.

Witcher's dialogs are juvenile and vulgar, with lotsa kurwa and little substance.

Vocals are whole different subject anyway, and shouldn't be discussed under "writing".
最后由 D-Black Catto 编辑于; 2022 年 7 月 17 日 下午 5:11
Dorok 2022 年 7 月 17 日 下午 5:14 
I disagree, as a novel, BG2 would be a total crap of boredom generic Fantasy book that would felt from my hands.

The Witcher 1 or Dragonfall would be much better novels or short novels, but you seem unable to see it, or have a different opinion, ok.

EDIT:
For vocals, ok but their text then, writing matter for movies.
最后由 Dorok 编辑于; 2022 年 7 月 17 日 下午 5:15
D-Black Catto 2022 年 7 月 17 日 下午 5:22 
引用自 Dorok
I disagree, as a novel, BG2 would be a total crap of boredom generic Fantasy book that would felt from my hands.

The Witcher 1 or Dragonfall would be much better novels or short novels, but you seem unable to see it, or have a different opinion, ok.

EDIT:
For vocals, ok but their text then, writing matter for movies.

The witcher ripped of multiple fantasy books. And I don't mean was inspired, it literally ripped it off, and Sapkowski was accused of plagiarism.

Although Witcher 1 is mostly an original story, it rides heavily on the books, constantly introducing quests, events and characters that were straight out ripped from the books with minor alterations. The Strzyga hunt is one prominent example. So yeah, you can argue that Witcher was already made into a book, and it's not a bestselling masterpiece(used to be in poland 30 years ago, due to not having any competition at the time).

Baldur's Gate 2 is by no means generic. Although taking place in DnD Forgotten Realms, which are like a foundation of all western style fantasy since 1980's, it manages to stay fresh and original.
Perhaps it's been a while since you played it, and you're confusing it with first Baldur's Gate game which was, I agree, quite boring and generic story, location, dialog and companion character wise?

Dragonfall has writing of young adult book not just in style, but also in content. I especially laughed at the quest of that girl with cybernetic arms, whatever her name was, when she was telling her oh so tragic backstory where she was taken in...by acolytes of Horned God...but they were actually (shhhh!) Satanists! And Horned God....is the devil!!!111!! Haha, can't make this ♥♥♥♥ up even if I tried.
最后由 D-Black Catto 编辑于; 2022 年 7 月 17 日 下午 5:24
Dorok 2022 年 7 月 17 日 下午 5:26 
Nope but anyway.
CaranBhelza 2022 年 7 月 18 日 上午 1:39 
Definitely. I'm surprised at how this game can still keep me up and playing beyond 3 am when I think of a new build. Got hooked the first time this came out. Hooked again when I revisited the game after 20 (approximately) years.
Zotliatlicor 2022 年 7 月 19 日 上午 9:02 
The total amount of text writing in BG2 is astounding. No other game i know of can compare.

It is equal in length to the first 4 books by Martin (songs of fire and Ice etc). If Dorok has not found this, the joke is on him.

Attack this question from a fact driven evidence based spot, and the winnner is clear. BG2.

One's personal preference in books of course affects one personal pereference in Games and stroy driven games.

Maybe play BG2 again and do something different ? and a new fresh book will emerge.

You can even find documentary movies about the work put into BG2. Many of the old develpers that are still around call it the "biggest crunsh ever", crunch beeing the amount of time it took to put everything in.
最后由 Zotliatlicor 编辑于; 2022 年 7 月 19 日 上午 9:04
D-Black Catto 2022 年 7 月 19 日 上午 9:16 
引用自 Zotliatlicor
The total amount of text writing in BG2 is astounding. No other game i know of can compare.

Tbh, I'd reject this argument. Quantity is not quality. This is why I couldn't stand pillars of eternity writing, a lot of text was just filler that didn't contribute to the story, character development or even world building.

Bg2 writing is both quantity and quality tho. But the point is, that sheer amount of text doesn't guarantee good writing.
最后由 D-Black Catto 编辑于; 2022 年 7 月 19 日 上午 9:17
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