Tricks you use, NOT cheats

[Shadowcran]

I've noticed one trick I haven't seen mentioned, although it probably is someplace. What I'd like to do is compile these tricks and/or easter eggs for easy reading.

1. Always use potions of Mind Focusing to always learn the spells with 100% success.

2. Always sell your "excess" gear at the same place if possible. This way you easily know where to buy it back if it's something you need later. This one applies to most RPGs.

3. The pause button is your friend..the pause button is your friend...the pause button is your friend

4. If you're not sure how a spell works, ask around about it on the forums. I admit when I'm ignorant and always glad to do so as it aids the learning process.

5. This may be my opinion only but: First priority to buy is gem bags, scroll cases, etc. Anything that stores excess gear. Unless you just like leaving valuable loot behind because you lack the space.

6. Let's say you find extra scrolls of a spell and all your spellcasters already know it. Erase it from one you're currently using from it's spellbook and "relearn" it. Extra Xp

7. Finding Traps is great not only to prevent damage, but extra xp as well. And yes, the game is filled with traps.

8. Use Scrolls of Undead Protection to get the Ring of Gaxx early.

9. For infinite money sell something to the guy in the temple sewers, steal it back and sell it again.

[frdnwsm]

"Its definitely a good idea to save some quests for Imoen. Otherwise she will be too low level to be useful for the end game."

So who says that you HAVE to bring Imoen along? OK, you do need to go to Spellhold to rescue her in order to progress the story but hey! Maybe she was always an annoying brat and you hate her guts. Tell her to get lost once you free her.

[Kephin]

Originally posted by frdnwsm:

Maybe she was always an annoying brat and you hate her guts

*gasp* how dare you.

[Shadowcran]

Well, in Baldur's Gate she was annoying, but is much better in 2.

She has a good balance on her and gets better with magic as you go. You NEED a thief and Jan gets a bit annoying at times. Imoen has "just good enough stats" with her thieving skills to last the rest of the game, plus a ton of spells.

I make the thieves have only the check for traps script on constantly. The others can do well enough with the right one, but thieves should be checking for traps all the time and when it comes to battle, I direct them manually, with Imoen mostly just casting magic. I tend to take over the clerics prior to a battle to give the correct defenses. The fighters? I direct them at the right prey first and then leave them alone unless needed. Imoen also tends to have the "wide area affect" spells like fireball and ice storm.

[Shadowcran]

Originally posted by robomagon:

Originally posted by frdnwsm:

Note that any items that you want to manufacture or upgrade at Cromwell's have to be done there before you leave Athkatla for good. That idiot Imp in ToB has no "recipes" for anything from SoA. [Crom Feyr for example]

BGTweaks has a mod that lets Cespenar use Cromwells recipes. Don't know if OP considers that a cheat though.

no, I wouldn't consider it a cheat at all. It's actually a mod correcting an oversight the game designers had. Can't blame them...a game of this scope and they honestly didn't "oversight" much. They put time, effort and yes, love, into their creation of this game. I can tell as I've also played the others in the past..bg, Icewind dales 1 and 2, etc. and they were very good, but nowhere near what BG 2 entails.

What I consider cheats? Easy. Ones that give you way overpowered equipment or spells or any equipment for that matter. If suddenly you all have boots of speed, it makes the finding of another hohum and ruins the experience. Ones that give you God power and you can't take damage is another.

Many people don't understand the difference between certain mods and cheats.

Mods that give you a new area to explore are not cheats, but a mod that gives you a new area that's easy...IDK, all you face are goblins and kobolds and you get a +100 Holy Avenger or something are a cheat.

Mods that give you a complex new character are not cheats...hell, the new character may be more trouble than it's worth, but a mod giving you "Superman" for a new character who has every class or whatever and is master of everything is a cheat.

Mods that correct glitches are NOt cheats by any means. I used to really play Oblivion and mods came in that fixed more issues than the developers themselves. Some would introduce new enemies to fight, areas to explore, etc. About then, Bethesda noticed and said, "Hmm...some of these modders are super talented" and hired them for Skyrim.

It takes you and your views on morality and what is fair to decide on what's a cheat and what is not. It's actually easy to do this. Plus, if you're using cheats only in a single player game, then who cares? It's your game to do whatever with. BUT, I take a hard line when it comes to multiplayers, especially those when you're in competition with other players. The fact that cheats are so commonplace makes a person feel like using them in multi are "no big deal" when in fact, they are.

[chango.fandango]

Originally posted by Tatsumaki - Fubuki:

(İ Dont Know İf İts Work For EE)
1.U can do gem tricks multiply stuck them and sell for infinit money
2.U can kill two time Unseeing Eye for exp and item
3.When u give Rift Device to Gaal after u gain exp "immediately" pause and talk pause and talk repeat it u have to be very fast at the pausing (max i can do is about 85 times)
4.Again when u return the Rift Device to avatar when he finish talking try to speak many times by pausing (i did it max 3 times)
5.U can gain multiply artifacts when u get all pieces put it all in one char before talk to dwarf command other party members to kill your char when u talk before items disappear that char have to die u can grab the artifact pieces.
6.İn counsil building u can pickpocket tolgaries for ring of ram before start his quest
7.Jaheira quest i dont remember which one u can pickpocket that person for ring of protection and cloak +2
8.U can respawn enemies for example enter the second floor by stairs and pull the enemy and go back first floor and hes here kill him and go up kill him again.(u have to do some practice)
9.U can get 1 more celestial fury by doing above tactic its realy hard to get second celestial fury.
10.For extra boots of speed u can kill Renal Bloodscalp before side with shadow thieves or after u done with thieves 3rd u can cast (i forgot the spell name decreases int.) except renal bloodscalp and kill him
11.Get a high value items and sell a vendor u can steal it back sell and steal tactic.150 point thieving skill enough
12.İn suldanesselar when u collect all pieces put in altar after that take it all back FAST i dont remember how to do exacly when u gain exp or see avatar u have to take all pieces back and put in back u can do this 2 or 3 times

thats all i remember so far

Aside from the fact this thread is called Tricks you use and NOT Cheats I will let it slide and indulge :).

EE actually closed many of the exploits available in vanilla version of the game. Off the top of my head Multiple Exp instances when you should only get one no longer work.

The scroll/potion trick no longer works.

Instances of 2 items no longer work. If you steal from Tolgarias he won't be carrying another Ring when he shows up at the sphere. No more 2x Ring of Gaxx (damn). Interestingly the only instances of stealing twice (Rings of Acuity) that still works is with Lavok before he turns hostile and after he dies. Terminsel also can be stolen from everytime he shows up.

Killing Renal in Chapter 6 is legit though. His door guard remains friendly for some reason.